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I think it’s interesting that Dickerson was used in the lead-off role when he got called up; do you think Stubbs could also bat leadoff for the big league squad? Personally, I think a platoon combo of Dickerson and Stubbs would work well in CF for the Reds, but I am not so sure either guy should bat lead-off.
If Stubbs is destined for lead-off, then do you think his approach at the plate will be altered to improve OBP, while sacrificing slugging?
I hope no one alters their swing to improve OBP and sacraficing power. If you hit for more power, odds are your OBP will go up because pitchers will pitch more carefully to you.
I think Stubbs could hit leadoff in the bigs, I just am not sure I would put him there right away.
It seems that lately Stubbs has responded to a challenge. For example, Stubbs was promoted to AAA too early some would argue, but Stubbs had success. I understand more seasoning in AAA is more than reasonable, but I would not be opposed to starting Stubbs in CF next season with Dickerson and Bruce in the outfield. Gold-glove caliber there already, and his hitting couldn’t be more of a detriment to the team than Patterson’s was.
I hope his injury concerns are a thing of the past, and I hope he won’t chronically miss time like a guy like Freel has. That is my primary concern for Stubbs.
If the best alternatives the Reds have come opening day for Center and left is Dickerson, Freel, and Hopper, then it is a clear choice to me that Dickerson goes to lkeft with Stubbs in center and have the best defensive outfield in baseball while Stubbs gets some on the job training. Ideally, Stubbs would get 2-3 months in AAA to refine his game and then come up in June or July, but that can only happen if a decent FA bat is signed or traded for for left or center, with Dickerosn starting in the other spot.
I don’t care if Stubbs spends the whole year in AAA. He still has some problomes that need to be fixed. We have the guys to hold down center for a year that will do better than paterson. We need Stubbs as a leadoff guy and i belive he needs to work on cuting down his strickouts to be one
Strikeouts in the leadoff spot are the most acceptable place to have them at. No one is on base in front of you most of the time, so a strikeout doesn’t hurt as much.
Doug:
If you’ll recall, I was among those who was very disappointed in the Reds drafting Stubbs. To me, he seemed to be a right-handed Adam Dunn strikeout machine, albeit a superior defensive player. I hope the kid continues to prove me wrong and has a great 2009 season.
This write up is the single most positive report I have ever seen on Stubbs in whom I have been mildly disappointed. I confess that I put a higher value on defense than most and a higher value on plate discipline (walks ) than most so Stubbs gradual improvement has been quite gratifying. I’m mystified about his lack of power numbers because some referred to his having ‘light tower power’ at UT, In fact he is one of very few players ever to have hit a ball over the distant centerfield fence at the UT home park. So I have been waiting for Stubbs to bust out like francisco. Now I’ll be satisfied if he keeps improving because we need a centerfielder who can go get the ball and maintain a .350 obp.
Doug,
Baseball America mentioned Chris Valaika and Daniel Dorn in their chat.
Yeah,
I saw that you got another question in there. Since we didn’t have anyone in the Top 20 I am just going to put up something about it later tonight rather than push the Stubbs talk a little lower during the evening.
Folks,
I’m amazed how people can feel any disappointment in Stubbs’ progression. Sure, he didn’t bolt to the big leagues like Evan Longoria, but he is still the second best position prospect (behind Longoria) to come out of the 2006 draft. And he is on the cusp of the big leagues.
The only regret/disappointment should be that we didn’t pick up one of the many great pitchers to come out of the 2006 draft (Lincecum, Kershaw, Chamberlin, Scherzer). But we didn’t. Instead we chose the 2nd best position prospect in the draft, and that’s how it still stands today. Go take a look at the draft history, and please don’t let your expectations cloud your vision.
My disappointment reflects my possibly inflated expectations about power more than anything else. That and the unfair comparison to the meteoric rise of Bruce who exceeded my wildest expectations. from stubbs I expected 15 homers at Billings, 20 at Dayton etc and it didn’t happen. Blame my expectations. I’m very happy about his progress this year and because I do value defense and OBP, I’m more enthusiastic than I was this time last year by a big bunch!.
Most everyone has to feel better about Stubbs this year than last. Still expect the power to come, watch the video below, he absolutely has the power in his bat, he just needs to learn to use it more.
http://home.insightbb.com/~goya551/public/Stubbs438HR.wmv
I am kind of hoping we see Stubbs later in the year. If he comes up early it probably means that the Reds aren’t winning. It would also mean that Dickerson isn’t holding down centerfield. It would be nice if Stubbs could push Dickerson to left field. That would create the world’s best outfield defense.
The defense would be fantastic, but I am not sure how the hitting would be compared to your average outfield.
i dont think there is any way Dickerson holds down LF next year, or ever. his bat, despite 100 ABs of 1.000+ OPS, is not near good enough for a corner spot. and his high-caliber defense is squandered over there. i think a Freel/Dickerson platoon in CF will do until Stubbs takes over.
I wouldn’t mind that platoon because Freel hits lefties well and you get good or great defense either way.
It looks like Stubbs is going to make Dickerson a fourth outfielder when he comes up. I hate to see him on the bench, but at least we’ll have a little depth at that point.
Freel can’t hold up as a full time starter. When he tries 2007 production is what you get. Part time super sub is where he belongs.
From what I’ve heard Stubbs’ defense alone is worth having him patrolling center in Cincy as soon as possible. Even if they have to hit him 8th in the lineup his speed at the bottom of the order wouldn’t be so bad.
Still the Reds need a “true” leadoff hitter. Perhaps Stubbs can become that but it will take some time and in the interm it would appear to me that the Reds will have to find a leadoff hitter from either the left field or shortstop position — both of which remain up in the air for next season.
I read on MLB.com that Drew Stubbs was an unlikley September call-up because he wasn’t on the 40-man roster, and didn’t need to be until 2010. This doesn’t sound right. He’s played 3 yrs as a professional (06-08) and was 2o or 21 when drafted. I think he’s got to be protected this winter. Is there something I’m misunderstanding?
He will need to be protected after next season.