8/2 Game Review

Louisville lost 8-1. Box Score

  • Denis Phipps went 2-4 with a double and solo HR (8).
  • Didi Gregorius went 2-3 with a walk.
  • Todd Redmond allowed 2 unearned runs in 5 innings with a walk and 4 strikeouts.
  • Will Ohman threw a shutout inning with a walk and 2 strikeouts.
  • Nick Christiani threw a shutout inning.
  • JJ Hoover threw a perfect inning with 2 strikeouts.

Game notes

After hitting .170 through May, Denis Phipps has hit .262 in July (spent all but one game in June on the DL). Didi Gregorius is now hitting .310/.337/.563 with the Bats through 21 games. JJ Hoover lowered his ERA to 1.55 in 29 innings and has 11 walks and 42 strikeouts.

Pensacola won 6-1. Box Score

  • Josh Fellhauer went 2-4 with a double, walk, RBI and a run.
  • Bryson Smith went 2-5 with 2 RBI and a run.
  • Beau Mills went 1-3 with 2 walks.
  • Donald Lutz went 1-4 with a walk.
  • David Vidal went 2-5 with a HR (13) and 2 RBI.
  • Miguel Rojas went 1-1 with a run (double switch).
  • Wirfin Obispo went 1-3 with a double at the plate. On the mound he allowed a run in 6 innings with a walk and 10 strikeouts.
  • Wilkin De La Rosa threw 1.1 perfect innings with 2 strikeouts.
  • Justin Freeman threw 1.2 perfect innings with 2 strikeouts.

Game notes

Billy Hamilton went 0-3 but walked twice and stole two more bases and scored 2 runs. He now has 119 steals. Bryson Smith is hitting .325 in 26 games since being called up from Bakersfield. Wirfin Obispo lowered his ERA to 2.47 with Pensacola. He has 48 strikeouts in 43.2 AA innings. Wilkin De La Rosa lowered his ERA to 1.98 on the season. Justin Freeman picked up save #12 and lowered his ERA to 2.87.

Bakersfield won 9-8. Box Score

  • Theo Bowe went 3-4 with a walk, 2 steals (54) and an RBI.
  • Travis Mattair went 2-5 with a run and 2 RBI.
  • Steve Selsky went 3-4 with a double, HR (15) and 3 runs.
  • Devin Lohman went 3-5 with a double, RBI and a run.
  • Juan Duran went 2-2 with a run.
  • Kurtis Muller went 1-3 with a run.
  • Danny Vicioso went 1-4 with an RBI.

Game notes

Theo Bowe raised his average to .338 with the Blaze and pushed it back over .300 on the full season. He also has 54 steals on the year. Steve Selsky is hitting .340 with the Blaze and now has 4 times as many home runs (12) with Bakersfield as he did with Dayton (3) in 70 fewer at bats.

Dayton lost 5-2. Box Score

  • Juan Perez went 1-3 with an RBI and a run.
  • Spencer Dickinson went 1-4 with an RBI.
  • Joe Terry went 1-2 and was HBP.
  • Kyle Waldrop went 1-3 with a double and a walk.
  • Junior Arias went 1-3 with a run and a steal (22).
  • Nick Masset (rehab) threw a shutout inning of work.
  • Wes Mugarian allowed 2 runs in 4.2 innings with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts.
  • Ryan Kemp allowed a run in 2.1 innings with 2 walks and a strikeout.

Game notes

Kyle Waldrop is hitting .303/.378/.606 over his last 10 games. The game is available to watch online tonight for free. You can get the link below in the game preview.

Game links

Postgame article from DaytonDragons.com.

Billings won 9-4. Box Score

  • Zach Vincej went 2-5 with a double and 2 runs.
  • Jesse Winker went 1-4 with a walk, RBI and 2 runs.
  • Seth Mejias-Brean went 2-3 with a double, walk, 2 RBI and 2 runs.
  • Daniel Pigott went 1-4 with a double and 2 RBI.
  • Carlos Sanchez went 2-4 with 2 RBI.
  • Jon Matthews went 1-4 with 2 runs and 3 steals (10).
  • Dan Langfield threw 2.2 shutout innings with a walk and 5 strikeouts.
  • Sean Lucas threw a shutout inning with a strikeout.

Game notes

Zach Vincej is hitting .371 in his first 9 games. Seth Mejias-Brean extended his hitting streak to 19 games. He is hitting .387 on the year.

AZL Reds were off

Game preview

Team 1st half 2nd half Time Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live
Louisville 43-70 N/A 7:05pm
Gallagher Here Here
Pensacola 34-35
21-19 7:43pm
Bakersfield 41-29 17-23 10:00pm
Dayton 30-40 15-23
Here Here
Billings 21-17 4-1
Here Here
AZL Reds
10-22 N/A
10:00pm TBA
Here N/A

48 Responses

  1. The Duke

    It’s hard to take college guys stats in rookie ball too seriously but you have to like what Vincej and Mejias-Brean are doing. Especially when both have been tabbed as plus defenders at SS and 3B respectively. It’ll be real interesting to see how they do in full season ball next year, and unlike Bryson Smith, the offensive bar isn’t set quite so high given their positional value, especially Vincej.

    Didn’t realize Obispo was almost 28, which essentially makes him org filler despite his performance this year.

    The only thing mlre we can ask from The General in AAA is that he coukd walk a little more.

    I woukd guess that Chad Rogers starts for Pensacola today, he was quietly promoted a few days ago, it’s been 5 days since he pitched last, and it is Sulbaran’s old slot in the rotation.

    • charliefunny

      You’re right Duke. The radio announcer said Rogers is tonight’s AA starter.

      • MK

        I heard a scout, about a month ago, say he thought Rogers had a greater upside as a starter than Corcino. I was a little taken back by that. Said he thought Corcino projected better in the bullpen.

      • The Duke

        Josh Smith is destined for the bullpen imo. His fastball csn play up a little there and be 92-93 and his curveball is a good secondary pitch. His changeup is pretty mediocre, I just don’t see him as a starter long term, albeit he’ll start for Pensacola next year.

      • Doug Gray

        Agreed. In his initial go in Dayton, Smith was a reliever who was working 92-94 with his fastball and a very good breaking ball. Even if he were a starter, and I am not sure about that one, in the Reds system there simply are far too many guys ahead of him. In the bullpen, he has 7th inning stuff and you can really use those types of guys.

    • DaveCT

      Duke, I am with you on Vincej and Mejias Brean. Love what these guys are showing in the short term (actually would love a trip to Billings). Both did just turn 21, so I’d say they are not too advanced in age. I am actually stunned at times at how well our scouting department ca re-load year after year. Kudos, Mr Buckley.

      • The Duke

        Forgot to mention that Mejias-Brean is a plus (maybe plus plus?) athlete as well, so he has that going for his upside.

      • BaBull

        Agree very much about Chris Buckley. He and his staff of scouts seem to be hitting all the right notes. The minor league system is light years ahead of years past (Schott, et al). Walt keeps overpaying on deals, yet, Chris just keeps reloading the gun. Very nice job. I hope we can keep him longterm.

    • Nate

      I don’t know if I completely agree with labeling Obispo as organizational filler, simply due to the odd set of circumstances surrounding his original arrival with the Reds in ’04 and when considering his upside. Wasn’t he placed on the restricted list at some point due to a Visa or marriage scandal, which really hindered his development in the U.S.? Doug, you may remember these details better than I…

      Regardless, it looks like he has a pretty solid arm. Personally, I think he might be able to stick it as a solid reliever/setup guy in the majors one day. Last time I checked, he had a live fastball and a solid breaking ball.

      • Doug Gray

        Yes, Obispo was only allowed to pitch in the US as of 2010 I believe.

  2. Mel

    De La Rosa faced 4 lefties and did the job Obispo should not be in AA Give this guy a shot in the bigs

    • The Duke

      Who exactly are you taking out of the Reds bullpen to give the 27 year old in AA a shot?

    • Randy in Chatt

      He should at least take Tomko’s spot on AAA, at least.

      • jim t

        Randy did you read my lsast comment on the last thread??

      • Randy in Chatt

        JimT, I never miss any of your posts……except that one.

  3. jim t

    Doug, Theo Bowe is having a nice season. Isv he someone we should start to be excited about? Seems to be performing much better in Bakersfield than Dayton.

    • Doug Gray

      He is someone to at least keep an eye on. His ideal game is making contact and running. He has been an ok hitter in the past, though he did struggle in Dayton this year, but it was a pretty small sample size.

      • The Duke

        His baserunning is terrible though, I think he is sub 70% success rate on SB. As fast as he is, it’s inexcusable.

      • MK

        Caught stealing 21 times and 42 steals at Bakersfield. Some diminishing returns there.

  4. jim t

    Saw this on anoter site. Another opinion on what we should do with Chapman.

    SN: What should the Reds do with Aroldis Chapman next year? Start him or keep him as their closer?

    Smoltz: I can’t believe I’m hearing this. I had no idea they’re even thinking about making him a starter. You would think people would have learned their lesson from the Joba Chamberlain situation. I don’t think it’s fair to bounce a guy around early in his career. The transformation between starting and closing is night and day. (Chapman) is lights out as a closer. I don’t know if he can be lights out for eight innings

    • CMT

      I have to say, I’ve always been in the camp that it would be borderline negligent to not at least try him as a starter (and I mean give him a legitimate chance). However, if he’s going to be the best reliever in the entire major leagues, as he’s pretty much been this season, it makes it a lot tougher decision.

      • The Duke

        Our handling of him was negligent, but it’s over now, he’s a closer. Doing anything else at this point would likely just mess him up.

    • Alan Horn

      There is a strong argument either way, but I tend to agree with Smoltz.
      Why mess with something that is working that well and isn’t broken. Throwing that hard for 9 innings or whatever is much harder on the arm than going 1 inning as a closer. That being said, Madson went down this season with a arm injury. Still, throwing 6 or more innings at a time is more risky than throwing 1 inning several days a week.

      • BaBull

        Smoltzie is right. I wasn’t sure that he would be successful as a closer but he is more than successful – he is lights out! Hopefully people are seeing it and not heading to their car a little early. I agree with ya CMT and The Duke. He was mismanaged early on but, it seems the ship on which he would start has already sailed.

    • MK

      If you look at the minor league pitching prospects (2 or 3 years down the road), I see several quality starting pitcher prospects but I don’t see a dominate relief prospect. I think Chapman relieves because he is the best available to them.

      I saw Masset last night in Dayton. Looked OK but wasn’t really dominate. As the clock is ticking on his rehab appearances he will need to be activated before September 1. Assuming no injuries who does he replace?

      • The Duke

        Unless an injury solves it for them, it’s either DFA Simon or send down Lecure.

      • Alan Horn

        Sounds like another Rolen situation. Play him over a player who is out performing him over a long span because of the contract/salary.

    • Bailey

      Yes, Chapman as a starter could lead to a Joba Chamberlain or Daniel Bard situation. It could also lead to a Chris Sale or Adam Wainwright situation. Converting relievers to starters has mixed results but with Chapman’s stuff it’s worth a shot. However unless they extend Broxton and bring back Madson I can’t see them taking Chapman out of the closers role

    • RobL

      Chapman is a closer. The possibility of him starting is over. Between increasing his innings per season, whether he can throw 96-100 over 7 innings or 93-95 and unable to locate his pitches, and the lack of a reliable secong or third pitch, there are too many issues involved. Leave him in his closing roll and let him feed off that adrenaline. He has shown he can handle back to back nights. He is the closer.
      (While his slider can be a plus-plus pitch, there is no faith in it. As evidence, I don’t think they have thrown one after getting two balls on a hitter. As a starter, he needs confidence to throw the pitch at anytime.)

  5. jim t

    MK, tough decision. I think they wait until there is a injury or they have to make the call.

    • MK

      His rehab assignment would need to be complete by the 26th, so they might wait until the 1st.

  6. DaveCT

    Hey Doug, Selsky is hitting .305 with 15 HR’s in 400 A level at bats. What do you think? plus he’s got a great name for a slugging OF, yes? sounds like a hockey player.

    • Doug Gray

      I think he didn’t hit much in Dayton and is killing it in Bakersfield. He is doing better in the K/BB department in Bakersfield, so that is nice to see. But when guys ‘break out’ in the California League, I generally pay no attention to it because just about everyone hits in the Cal League.

      • MK

        He was hitting .281 in Dayton with less power, which might be attributed to the Bakersfield Park.

      • wanderinredsfan

        Problem with that theory is that Selsky is hitting much better on the road, where many stadiums aren’t as hitter friendly. In fact, his last two homers were hit in possibly the most pitcher-friendly park in all of baseball.

  7. DaveCT

    Correct me if wrong, but wasn’t Wilkin de la Rosa converted from a position player? I am wondering if he (with Cingrani) were the depth allowing us to trade Joseph. Perhaps de la Rosa was just better …

  8. Scott from upstate NY

    So… :) for the national league Manager of the Year award who would you guess is the leading candidate at this point?

      • Patrick in Cortland NY

        I believe Clint Hurdle and Davey Johnson are ahead of Dusty.

        As long as the Pirates make the playoffs I think Hurdle will win

      • MK

        Yeah I agree with those two and am not trying to take anything away from Dusty with that opinion.

      • Scott from upstate NY

        Hee hee hee. Anyone remember Bugs bunny: “Ain’t I a stinker?”

  9. The Duke

    Easily Dusty. It’s all about your record for that award and this streak with Votto out is cementing it. Ludwick might have a shot at comeback player of the year.

  10. Mel

    Duke when the rostersexpand in september i do not want to mess with the bullpen at this time

  11. Mel

    Dave CT, I understand that WJ and BB were in Pensacola last week and like very much what they saw in De LaRosa and Manno , so maybe and I am saying maybe that made it easier for them to part with Donnie. Donnie had a great AA half season this year