2012 Season in Review: Daniel Corcino Doug Gray January 4, 2013 23 Comments Daniel Corcino came into the 2012 season as arguably the Reds top pitching prospect after a strong 2011 year with Dayton. The Reds pushed him aggressively and skipped him over High-A Bakersfield and straight to Double-A Pensacola where he spent his entire season as an anchor in the Blue Wahoos rotation. April didn’t start off particularly strong as Corcino allowed 3 runs in just 4.1 innings with 3 walks and 5 strikeouts in his debut. He rebounded some though as he allowed just 6 earned runs the rest of the month in 20.2 innings as he finished with a 3.24 ERA in 25 total innings. He didn’t allow a home run in the month, which kept his ERA down despite 12 walks and 19 strikeouts that led to a 1.48 WHIP. From a peripheral standpoint May was much better than April, though the right hander saw his ERA jump to 3.72 in 29 innings. Corcino allowed 3 home runs, but saw his walk rate drop with just 11 walks on the month and he struck out 34 batters while posting a 1.21 WHIP. It was a step forward despite the results being slightly worse on the surface. June didn’t start off well. On the first of the month he allowed 3 runs in 3 innings while walking 4 and striking out just 2 batters. The next two starts were strong lasting a combined 13 innings with just 2 earned runs, 4 walks and 14 strikeouts. The second start there was particularly impressive as he threw 8 hitless innings of a combined no hitter with Wilkin De La Rosa against Mobile down in Pensacola. The next start, 8 days later, was another battle with control as he walked 6 batters and struck out just 2 in 4 innings. He finished the month strong with 8 innings of 1 run baseball with 2 walks and 7 strikeouts to finish the month with a 2.57 ERA and 1.21 WHIP in 28 innings, though his 16 walks (most coming in two starts) were a concern. July was perhaps the strongest month of the year for Corcino as he threw 29.1 innings over 5 starts with 9 walks and 25 strikeouts. He posted a 3.38 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP on the month. He only allowed over 2 runs in a game once during the stretch. August was both good and bad. Corcino made six starts on the month and allowed 1 or fewer runs in 5 of them. His ERA for the month was a tiny 2.25 and his WHIP was just 1.19 while allowing just a single home run in 32 innings. Those things are all good to see. However he walked 17 batters while striking out just 23. W L ERA IP H HR BB SO WHIP SO/BB 8 8 3.01 143.1 111 9 65 126 1.23 1.94 Overall Thoughts While Corcino was passed up on the prospect list by another pitcher, he still remains a strong arm and a Top 100 prospect in all of baseball in my opinion. At the end of the season his walk rate is higher than you would like to see, and certainly does need improvement, but it seems to me that there were just blips on the radar here and there rather than a season long struggle with controlling the strikezone. He has quality stuff and while he is a bit undersized, the Reds have shown that being short won’t keep you out of the rotation if you can perform (Cueto/Leake). With a strong start to the 2013 season in Louisville he could be on the verge of a call up at any point if a big leaguer heads to the DL. Video To see other Season in Review articles click this link. 23 Responses jim t January 4, 2013 Really anxious to see how Corcino,Cingrani and Stephenson progress this year. With Bailey and Latos entering Arbritration years and Arroyo in the last year of his deal it is imparative that these guys continue to progress. Hope Walt can lock up Bailey and Latos early. The market has gone crazy for both pitchers and position players. What the Red Sox paid for Victorino was a crime. sultan of swaff January 4, 2013 Repeatability seems to be the issue for Corcino if the video is any indication. It appears he gets the yips here and there and tries to overthrow. If that’s the case, he’ll age out of it. While I wouldn’t have hesitated to include Corcino or Leake in the right deal before we got Choo, it’s certainly a comfort knowing there’s some quality depth should any of our front line starters go down. Plus you have to plan for Arroyo’s eventual departure. jim t January 4, 2013 For all interested in Amir Garrett, he will be playing basketball against the Cats Saturday at the shoe. Last game against Villanova he had 15 points in a overtime loss. St. Johns is 8-5 on the year. they are very young and very atheletic. Should be a good game. they always play the cats tough.T jim t January 4, 2013 Doug, just a thought but I was wondering your feelings on the economic state of the game. With contracts like the one the red Sox gave Victorino it almost appears they are intentionally trying to drive player cost up so they can have a advantage in procurring free agents By increasing the payroll cost for small market teams. Thus turning them into ML farm teams. I know they have to deal with the luxury tax but is that really a deterent? Best way to create a unfair advantage is to price the little guys out of the market and reduce the competition. Jasonp January 4, 2013 There is a new MLB TV deal that will start sometime real soon. Maybe next year. Every team will get around an extra 30 mil a year. I think some teams were just spending it before they actually got it. Knowing it is there in a year or so made them ok with giving out a few more mil a year to sign the players they wanted. A lot of free agents got 2-3 mil more a year then what people thought they would get. jim t January 4, 2013 Jasonp, I don’t think every team receives the same piece of the pie. The big markets will still dwarf us in TV revenue. The reds will increase their revenue but not nearly as much as the Dodgers and others. Also when was the last time you saw baseball salaries on a whole come down. Once a new high water mark is established it effects all negotiations. Eveytime a player breaks the highest paid barrier it rachets the cost up accross the board for everyone. That is why their are few hometown discounts. Players are looked down on for taking a team friendly deal because of how it effects other player deals. They are told by agents and players union it is their duty to get as much as they can. Example Joey Votto and Albert P share the same agent. No way was he going to let Joey sign his deal before Albert landed his deal and established the market. Krozley January 4, 2013 For the National TV contracts, all teams split it equally and it is about $25 million additional per team starting in 2014. Lots of articles about it if you want to check. Wouldn’t it be nice if teams took some of that money and lowered ticket prices? One could dream. MK January 4, 2013 The changes in the player agreement and the slot money and caps for draft picks has opened up more cash for free agents. Doug Gray January 4, 2013 There is a lot of interesting things going on right now. Teams are FLUSH with cash and some teams will be getting more soon (like the Reds, who are still working with an OLD tv contract). They all get the same chunk from the national TV deal, as noted below. The difference maker is when the Dodgers get $250M a year from their own TV deal, where as a team like the Reds is currently getting somewhere between $10M (Fay) to $30M (can’t remember the source). Now, a new contract is on the horizon of course, but still, the estimates are in the $50-75M range. It is still dwarfed compared to what the big market teams are getting. What I would LOVE to see happen, before the market corrects itself (read: players getting a much larger portion of the pie of this TV money from their new contracts) is teams like the Reds to extend young guys for 6-10 years based on salary right now, and not salary in 2-3 years. Bruce, Latos and Bailey. Those guys with something to gain now and also have a track record to work with. Spend some now and assuming health and natural progression, save a TON in a few years when everyone is making crazy money compared to what they are now. One thing that is interesting to see is how the draft/international spending caps are causing free agents to still be unsigned. Teams can’t just spend what they want anymore, so giving up that premium first round pick is actually a very big deal now. It eliminates some guys from teams who would otherwise look into them. RobL January 4, 2013 I believe over on fangraphs, Wendy Thurm wrote an article about the Dodgers’ TV negotiations and had the dollar amounts for most teams’ TV deals. I am 99% sure she had the Reds listed at 40 mil a year. Doug Gray January 4, 2013 I talked with Wendy about that in the comments. There are wildly different reports out there ranging from the $10M Fay has repeatedly said to the $40M that Wendy posted. Personally, I will believe the guy who covers the team day in and day out until shown actual evidence from others. RobL January 4, 2013 40 million does seem like a good amount. I was surprised. I agree that Fay should be the better source. Greg January 4, 2013 I think having players like Corcino and Cingrani are very important to the Reds. Because if the Reds think there is no way they can sign Latos or Baily then they could trade them with a year or 2 of team control and that makes their value the highest. Thats why I think the Reds need to look into trading one of them so they can keep plugging in cheap talented players year after year. Thats the only way the Reds are going to be able to sustain this success. Maybe one year they trade Cueto next year they trade Baily and then the next they trade Latos. They need to think like the Oakland A’s. The Reds will never be able to do what the Phillies have done on spending all that money on their pitching. If Cole Hamels and Matt Cain are getting 120 million plus what are Cueto, Baily, Latos, and Chapman going to get? Then look at what Zach Greeinke got this off season and I think Cueto and Latos are better or are going to be better. Doug Gray January 4, 2013 I don’t think the Reds are in a rebuilding mode. You don’t trade established talent to bring in young talent that is unproven simply because you can’t sign them when you are the best team on paper in your division or maybe even your league. The key is guys like Corcino and Cingrani and Stephenson being ready when their time is here. Not having to be rushed like Bailey was, or even like Cueto was. While Cueto was better at the start, it took him a little while to come into his own at the Majors. He didn’t spend a ton of time in the upper minor leagues. The Duke January 4, 2013 The big thing for Corcino this year will be to be more consistent with his control, repeating his delivery, and lowering his walk rate. If he does those 3 things, he’ll be major league ready and could have a Cueto like rookie year in 2014. I absolutely think he has the leg up on a permanent starting spot over Cingrani given his better refined off speed stuff. MK January 4, 2013 As I mentioned yesterday with Hayes there is a learning curve at AA where the hitters lay off those pitches out of the strike zone they swing at in A ball. When you factor that both these guys passed High-A it shows in there poorer walk rates. sultan of swaff January 4, 2013 Interesting article on the Chapman conversion to starting pitcher: http://www.baseballprof.com/2013/01/aroldis-chapman-succeed-starter/ Terry M January 4, 2013 Very interesting…I said that he needed to work with Soto to try and make his change up even better. I hope he works on the change up all spring and gets the separation on the speed as the article talked about… Jon Ryker January 6, 2013 My biggest concerns with Chapman succeeding have been that he won’t throw near 98 as a starter and that he has not appeared to be durable. I think they should have either kept him as a closer or traded him….Hopefully, it works out… Dan January 4, 2013 Haha that guy didnt do his research. You guys know that Chapman’s “changeups” are just mislabeled fastballs from his dead arm periods right? peppe January 5, 2013 someone talked about trading mez who would the reds have to go with hannigan Jimmer January 5, 2013 Corcino needs more time in the minors. Cingrani would be the next guy in line for me. Proven he can get MLB hitters out, something Corcino hasn’t done. Think Bailey in 07-08 right now on Corcino. Lack of control will kill you against MLB hitters. Trevor Bauer has much better stuff than Corcino and he got killed last year because he had no control. Stock January 6, 2013 Well said.