Minor League Game Review – 7/21/14 Doug Gray July 22, 2014 43 Comments Louisville lost 1-0. Box Score Rey Navarro went 2-3. Tucker Barnhart went 1-3. Hernan Iribarren went 1-3 with a double. Dylan Axelrod allowed a run in 7.1 innings with 2 walks and a strikeout. Pedro Villarreal threw 1.2 shutout innings with a strikeout. Game Notes In his Reds organizational debut Dylan Axelrod ran into some bad luck, allowing a run in the first inning and unfortunately that was enough to hold off the Bats on the day. Axelrod fired out 7.1 innings with just that one run allowed and saw Pedro Villarreal finish the game out with 1.2 shutout innings. The defenses got a lot of work on the day, both teams combined for just five strikeouts, but offense was at a premium with just 11 total hits. Louisville got the tying run on base to lead off the bottom of the ninth with Ruben Gotay leading off with a walk, but he was erased on a double play to end the game. Pensacola lost 6-3. Box Score Kyle Waldrop went 1-4 with a run. Ross Perez went 2-3 with a walk, HR (4) and 3 RBI. Devin Lohman went 1-3 with a double. Ben Lively allowed a run in 6 innings with 7 walks and 4 strikeouts. Carlos Gonzalez threw a shutout inning with a strikeout. Game Notes A starting pitching duel broke out in Pensacola between the Blue Wahoos and the BayBears. Ben Lively had struggles with his control in the game, walking seven batters, but he took a no-hitter into the fifth inning. The control problems on the day finally caught up with him as he walked the first two batters of the seventh inning and one came around to score on a sac fly to give Mobile a 1-0 lead after the seventh inning. The eighth inning was where things got really rough as the BayBears scored five runs, all unearned that put the game out of reach. Pensacola didn’t go easily though, rallying for three runs in the bottom of the ninth inning on a Ross Perez 3-run shot that scored Ryan Wright and Kyle Waldrop. That was all that they would get though as they fell to 10-21 in the second half. Bakersfield lost 10-4. Box Score Zach Vincej went 1-4 with a double. Jeff Gelalich went 1-3 with a walk and a run. Marquez Smith went 2-3 with 2 doubles, a walk and a run. Juan Perez went 1-4 with an RBI. Sebastian Elizalde went 2-4 with a HR (12) and 3 RBI. Sean Lucas threw a shutout inning with a strikeout. James Allen threw 2 shutout innings with 2 strikeouts. Game Notes Rancho Cucamonga jumped out to a 4-0 lead, scoring a run in the first and adding three more in the fourth inning. In the bottom of the fourth the Blaze got things started with a Jeff Gelalich walk and a Marquez Smith double. Juan Perez grounded out, but drove in the first Bakersfield run. David Vidal walked and Sebastian Elizalde hit a 3-run homer with two outs to tie the game up at 4-4. The sixth inning is what did the Blaze in as the Quakes crossed the plate six times in the inning, jumping out to a 10-4 lead that held up the rest of the way. Dayton lost 5-4 in 11 innings. Box Score Jamodrick McGruder went 1-5 with a walk and an RBI. Jose Ortiz went 1-4 with a run. Gabriel Rosa went 2-4 with a HR (3), steal and 3 RBI. Jonathan Reynoso went 1-2 with a walk, steal and a run. Amir Garrett allowed 2 earned in 6 innings with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts. Nick Howard threw a perfect inning with 2 strikeouts. Alejandro Chacin threw 3 shutout innings with a walk and 3 strikeouts. Game Notes The game was back-and-forth all afternoon with Wisconsin striking first in the second inning, taking a 1-0 lead. Dayton tied the game up in the fifth when Jonathan Reynoso scored on a Jamodrick McGruder single. The Timber Rattlers took the lead in the bottom of the sixth inning with a single run, going ahead 2-1. Dayton saw Phillip Ervin walk and Jose Ortiz single with one out in the inning to get the tying and go-ahead runs on base. A breaking ball to Gabriel Rosa was sent well over the fence to give the Dragons a 4-2 lead. The next pitch came up and in to Jonathan Reynoso, hitting him in the hand/wrist/lower arm area and the benches cleared, but there was no action between the two teams as far as fighting goes. Reynoso and Jose Ortiz were both ejected, as were several Wisconsin players. Wisconsin tied the game up in the bottom of the frame and the game headed to extra innings after a scoreless ninth inning. Both teams were shutout in the tenth inning and Dayton went scoreless in the top of the eleventh as well. That set up the bottom of the frame where a leadoff walk came around to score on a single to end the game. Amir Garrett put together another strong outing and he is rolling now with a 2.30 ERA in his last 10 games with 19 walks and 50 strikeouts in 54.2 innings pitched. Billings lost 8-4. Box Score Ty Washington went 1-4 with a double, RBI and a run. Alex Blandino went 0-2 with 2 walks, a steal and a run. Garrett Boulware went 2-5 with an RBI. Jose Guzman threw 3 shutout innings with a walk and 3 strikeouts. Game Notes The game got off to a rough start as Ogden scored three runs in the first inning and added another in the third to take a 4-0 lead. The Mustangs got single runs in the fifth and the sixth, but the Raptors scored two in each inning and led 8-2 after six. Billings would add single runs in both the eighth and the ninth innings, but they managed just four hits on the day and despite six errors for Ogden helping out, they weren’t able to make the comeback on the day. AZL Reds lost 9-3. Box Score Chadwick Tromp went 1-4 with an RBI. Gavin LaValley went 2-4 with a double and a run. Reydel Medina went 2-4 with a double and a run. Josciel Veras went 1-4 with 2 RBI. Tyler Parmenter threw a shutout inning with a strikeout. Game Notes The Reds took an early 1-0 lead on a Chadwick Tromp single that scored Jose Siri. The lead held until the fifth inning and then things got away from the Reds as the Angels scored four runs, three runs and two runs over the next three innings as they jumped out to a 9-1 lead. The Reds got two runs back in the ninth on a Josciel Veras single that brought in Gavin LaValley and Reydel Medina, but that was all they could muster and lost 9-3. 7/22 Game Preview Team 1st half 2nd half Time (EST) Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live Louisville 50-53 N/A 7:05pm Smith Here Here Here Pensacola 31-39 10-21 7:30pm Corcino Here Here Here Bakersfield 45-25 14-17 10:45pm Peralta Here Here N/A Dayton 36-32 14-15 OFF OFF Here Here Here Billings 14-20 N/A 9:00pm Antone Here Here N/A AZL Reds 11-14 N/A 10:00pm TBA Here N/A N/A 43 Responses The Duke July 22, 2014 Rough night for the Reds organization. Losses from top to bottom. AWA85 July 22, 2014 LaValley sure hit the ground running since being drafted, very nice to see. MikeD July 22, 2014 On paper the Reds are still within striking distance, however this teams offense will not be strong enough to compete with 3 other teams. I would rather the Reds consider moving Latos, Chapman and even perhaps Cueto. The Tampa model makes sense to me in that the Reds are not going to be able to maintain a payroll can aford multiple large contracts. There were 9 players in total at the Allstar game that made over 20 million. Keeping Cueto will require paying him at least 20 mil and that won’t help as they deal with multiple young players. I would make an attempt at adding getting Ben Zobrist for a few minor leaguers but once that fails, I would go into the sell mode. Buying out of desperation will only fail in the end. Doug Gray July 22, 2014 Like I said, the Reds screwed the pooch by not trying to see if they could catch lightning in a bottle by starting Soto at first for two weeks to see if he could carry over that .333 AAA. Now it’s too late and they don’t know and either have to make a trade for a legit bat to add to the lineup, or basically throw in the towel because the lineup they have right now simply isn’t going to come close to cutting it. jim t July 22, 2014 Doug if the reds braintrust thought Soto was the answer he would have been playing. Joey being injured most of the year and not being the player he was along with Bruce being terrible and BP injured has killed the season. Even gettting a bat at this time would not put them over the top if Bruce,Votto and BP don’t come back as viable players. Not playing Soto had nothing to do with it. Alan Horn July 22, 2014 Frazier, Mesoraco and Hamilton’s good seasons thus far helps with the loss of production from Votto, Bruce and Phillips. I still say the decision to go with Ludwick in LF was the biggest error made. You can’t predict injuries but you know they are coming. The number of injuries we have had this year is way beyond the norm. Ludwick hasn’t been horrible but he hasn’t been good either. LF is typically a position of offensive strength on most teams. So we have a offensive void at the 3 positions of expected offensive strength(1B, LF and RF). Add to that 2B where Phillips is better offensively than most. It is obvious if we plan to compete this season we need a potent hitter. What we are running out there in LF, 2B and 1B isn’t going cut it along with Cozart’s offensive weakness and Bruce’s sub par hitting. sultan of swaff July 22, 2014 SeaBass Elizalde is having himself quite a year. 71 strikeouts, 53 walks, 12 home runs, .920 OPS between 2 levels. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. Does anyone know if Rosa was hotdogging it on his home run? I could see something like that leading to the plunking of Reynoso. MK July 22, 2014 No he didn’t hotdog. The Wisconsin broadcasters on milb-TV tried to blame it on the Dragons hitting one of their guys Ratteree on an at bat after a home run in the first game. There were about 8 HBP in the series between the two teams. I guess it was getting a little testy. It really cost the The Dragons as they had to put McGruder in left field and he missed a fly ball for an easy out. Doug Gray July 22, 2014 So, I have a story that’s waiting in the wings for the site that should go up today, but I have to sit on it for now until there’s an official release of information. It’s a big story though, so there may not be an early afternoon post as it may turn into a late afternoon post. Nick July 22, 2014 Killing me, Doug! I have to know! Alan Horn July 22, 2014 I hope it is a trade for Marlon Byrd(someone who can help things). Nick July 22, 2014 Byrd might be an upgrade over our current left field position but that 29% K rate is scary! While he has some power, counting on a guy who is almost 37 to continue hitting for power while not getting on base at an above average clip is very risky. This is exactly how we got into the Ludwick mess. Not sure I’m sold on the Byrdman. KyWilson1 July 22, 2014 Hopefully its Zobrist and he doesnt require a ton of prospects. Or a Latos extension, either would be pleasing. Nick July 22, 2014 I’ll second that, KyWilson Alan Horn July 22, 2014 Zobrist hasn’t put up good numbers this season. .264 BA, 7 HRs, and 27 RBIs. I think we need someone with a lot more punch. Byrd is producing a lot more than Ludwick has lately. Still, I agree that it is a gamble, but maybe our best gamble. Injury would be what I would most worry about with Byrd. KyWilson1 July 22, 2014 Zobrist is younger, creates more position flexibility, and has a proven track record. I wouldnt go close to Byrd, couldve had him last year for nothing and passed, should do the same this year. CarGo might be availible, and is really the only game changing bat. Nick July 22, 2014 I hope the Reds aren’t putting much stock into RBIs these days, or we will be in BIG trouble. Zobrist has a .353 OBP and is a better defender and baserunner than Byrd. Also, younger and less risk. Better option it seems. Alan Horn July 22, 2014 I don’t think they are(Votto, Bruce, Ludwick and Phillips). I think we are already in big trouble. We need someone who can produces runs which win ballgames. Specifically, we need someone who can drive in runs on a consistent basis. That would be the 3, 4, 5 and 6 hitters. Too many holes there to win. Nick July 22, 2014 Disagree. Run producers are guys that don’t make outs. The Reds scored more runs last year because Choo and Votto were always on base. RBIs are a stat of opportunity. That’s why Phillips could have the worst offensive year of his Reds career in most categories and still have over 100 RBIs. He is hitting .301 with RISP this year. Just doesn’t have the opportunities. The Reds have an out problem and have for several years. Alan Horn July 22, 2014 When the Reds were great(75-76) most on here weren’t even born. Those teams had great RBI producers. Bench, Perez,, Foster, Griffey and to a lessor extent, Morgan who had better than 20 HRs. The younger crowd considers 20 HRs great. Bench, Perez and Foster hit anywhere from the high 30’s to the low 50’s. With HRs you can score quickly and multiple runs with one swing of the bat. It’s a lot harder when you nickel and dime runs(this team can’t nickel and dime runs either). The pitching on this team is better than the 75-76 team. Anyone who thinks the hitting is remotely close does not know much about baseball. Most all the great teams have a couple or 3 good power hitters that have done it over multiple years. Not one year wonders whose number one goal is to work a walk. Your role in the 3 and 4 spots is to drive in runs. It we win this year it will be because of a superior pitching staff who should sue the hitters(less Frazier, Mes and Hamilton) for non support. We seem to have a lot of experts when it has been decades since the Reds have won anything. The best experience for anyone is to experience winning(especially fans). It has been a while for some. Most on here have never experienced it. Nick July 23, 2014 No reason to get flustered, Alan. It is just a difference of opinion. I just like to look at different numbers because I believe they are more telling than RBIs based on a lot of research done by a lot of smarter people than me. Here is an example http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2562 No one said the Reds hitting this year is close to the 1970s. It is far worse. As far as 1975… Foster had 78 RBIs (similar to Votto’s 73 last season) but he did have a .356 OBP and .518 Slugging Griffey had 46 RBIs but a .391 OBP Perez and Bench had 109 and 110 RBIs respectively. Similar to Bruce and Phillips last year. Both Bench and Perez had a .350 or better OBP Morgan had a walk rate like Votto’s last year (20.7%) and had a .466 OBP Rose had a .406 OBP. Geronimo had a .327 OBP. Conception had a .326 OBP. Seems like a lot of people getting on base and not making outs very much. Couldn’t that possibly contribute to higher runs scored and thus more RBI’s? herbie July 22, 2014 Zobrist has put up great numbers. You’re judging a player on BA and RBIs. Didn’t know my grandpa posted on here. AWA85 July 22, 2014 Please don’t be Winker injury related! Doug Gray July 22, 2014 It’s not a trade. Steve July 22, 2014 Rusney Castillo? Cuban OF? Brad Konerman July 22, 2014 If its Ondrusek going to DL, I am very underwhelmed! Looking forward to your news break. Respect that you hold onto it until official. Doug Gray July 22, 2014 Haha, it’s not Ondruek to the DL. Norwood Nate July 22, 2014 This was first thought Brad Konerman July 22, 2014 Can we get a hint what the big news is? Slow Tuesday… I am guessing the Reds are moving from Bakersfield. Kevin Davis July 22, 2014 Doug, Why has Winker not played recently – is he hurt ? Doug Gray July 22, 2014 Yes. He’s been dealing with a hand injury of sorts for the past two weeks or so. sultan of swaff July 22, 2014 I’m gonna guess it’s a Winker callup. Seems like Price is unhappy with all his options in LF since no one gets more than a start or two in a row. Alan Horn July 22, 2014 He is only hitting .208 in AA. He doesn’t appear to be ready there yet. That is the way you ruin a young ballplayer. MJ July 22, 2014 The story has to be about Sebastian Elizdale being promoted to AA! Right? KyWilson1 July 22, 2014 The Reds are putting free Yuengling dispensers all over GABP? Doug Gray July 22, 2014 You wish! Doug Gray July 22, 2014 I’m starting to think the announcement isn’t coming today. Which sucks since I could have written something up today for the afternoon, but didn’t want it to get buried behind what I planned on publishing. herbie July 22, 2014 Reds sign Uggla and get him Lasik!? Doug Gray July 22, 2014 The Braves already tried that last year. It didn’t improve his hitting. Uggla signed with the Giants though, thankfully. Alan Horn July 22, 2014 The Giants have already saved us from ourselves and signed him. Worn out retreads seem to be drawn to us like a magnet. Check out AAA Louisville. The Giants placed him on their minor league team. terry m July 22, 2014 I think Brad K is right it’s about the move from Bakersfield… Shaggy July 22, 2014 Cubs FDA Barney and reds picked him up for ondrusek Alan Horn July 22, 2014 A poll of fans on the chat today (mlbtraderumors.com) on who would win the NL central went like this. Cards 58%, Pirates 21%,, Brewers 14% and the Reds 7 %. I don’t necessarily agree with the breakdown and wouldn’t rule the Reds out if they acquire another legit hitter, some of the existing hitters start hitting and they stay away from further injury. It’s probably a long shot at this point, but our strong starting staff keeps us in contention for the short term at least.