Cincinnati Reds #18 Prospect: RHP Jimmy Herget Doug Gray December 5, 2016 16 Comments After being drafted in the 6th round by the Cincinnati Reds in 2015 and spending his entire season with the Billings Mustangs, Jimmy Herget skipped a level and joined the Advanced-A Daytona Tortugas to start the 2016 season. He only made two appearances in the first week of the season, each a scoreless inning of work and he had three combined strikeouts. The next week saw three appearances, allowing one run over the course of 4.0 innings with seven strikeouts. In the final week of April the right handed reliever threw 4.0 more innings over three games with one earned run, two walks and six strikeouts. The first month with Daytona was outstanding for Herget, he allowed just two runs over 10.0 innings (1.80 ERA) with just two walks and 16 strikeouts. With three days off before taking the mound again, Jimmy Herget threw 3.0 shutout innings against Lakeland with five strikeouts to kick off the month of May. He had another three days off before pitching again on the 7th with a shutout inning and two more strikeouts. The second week saw him make four appearances where he allowed one run over 3.2 innings with four more strikeouts. The third week of May was a struggle for the right hander as he allowed two runs in three appearances over 3.2 innings with five walks (more than he had in the entire season that that point) with three strikeouts. Things went better in the final week of the month as he didn’t allow an earned run in 4.1 innings with a walk and five strikeouts. The month was another strong one as he had a 1.76 ERA in 15.1 innings with six walks and 20 strikeouts. June saw things slow down a little bit. In the first two weeks of the month Jimmy Herget only made three appearances, but each one was a shutout inning of work and he had three total strikeouts. In the third week of June he only made one appearance, a perfect inning with two strikeouts on the 15th against Jupiter. Herget didn’t pitch again until the 22nd, which kicked off a stretch of four appearances to end the month, all shutout games with a total of seven strikeouts. Over eight appearances in June, the righty didn’t give up a run, allowed just three hits with two walks and he struck out 12 batters. July was a bit slow at the start as well for Jimmy Herget. In the first two weeks he made four total appearances, allowing two runs in 5.0 innings with three walks and four strikeouts. Things picked up in the third week of the month as the closer tossed 4.0 shutout innings in three appearances with five strikeouts. Over the final week of the month he would make four more appearances, including two on July 29th where he picked up the save on both ends of a double header. In 11 total appearances on the month he posted a 2.03 ERA in 13.1 innings with eight walks and 16 strikeouts. The first three appearances in August went well as Jimmy Herget threw 3.2 hitless innings with two walks and six strikeouts. On the 11th he ran into problems against the Yankees when he allowed two runs in an inning of work on the back end of a double header. Over the next week he made three appearances and tossed 4.0 innings with just one run allowed. In the final four games of his season he threw 5.1 innings with just one earned run allowed and added in eight strikeouts. The last five weeks of the season saw him post a 2.57 ERA, which was the worst stretch of his entire year when it comes to ERA, in 14.0 innings with four walks and 19 strikeouts. To say that Jimmy Herget dominated the Florida State League would be an understatement. The right hander posted a 1.78 ERA in 60.2 innings and racked up 24 saves to go along with 83 strikeouts. Both left handers and right handers struggled to do much against him with lefties doing a little better, posting a .613 OPS against him (.532 for the right handed hitters). Level IP H ERA HR BB K DTT 60.2 47 1.78 3 22 83 For all 2017 Prospect Ranking Scouting Reports – click here (these will come out one per weekday over the offseason). Jimmy Herget Scouting Report [private_subscriber] Fastball | From a velocity standpoint, Jimmy Herget works in the 93-95 MPH range most days, but will often touch 97 with the pitch as well. The velocity is good, but the pitch also moves well, showing some nice armside run at times. At times he will change his arm angle, dropping it down some to give hitters a different look and his fastball is more in the 90-91 MPH range from there. Slider | The pitch works in the 78-82 MPH range. It’s a slightly above-average pitch at times, but can flash itself as a plus offering other times with good biting action. Most of the time it’s an above-average offering though, moving on two planes thanks to his arm angle adding some sweep across the zone. When he’s at his best, Jimmy Herget is showing two plus offerings with a moving fastball in the mid-to-upper 90’s and a slider with strong biting action that’s also sweeping across the zone. His walk rate in 2016 was about average for a reliever, but he’s generally a strike thrower and doesn’t seem to have control issues. He’s incredibly thin, and his mechanics aren’t textbook, so that may warrant keeping an eye on in the future, but right now he profiles well as an 8th inning caliber reliever if he continues his natural progression through the farm system. [/private_subscriber] 16 Responses HavaKlu December 5, 2016 Why would you say he profiles as an 8th inning reliever when his whole career with the Reds he has been a closer? Doug Gray December 5, 2016 Because that’s what he profiles as…. A minor league role does not always mean that’s a guys role in the big leagues. HavaKlu December 5, 2016 Why does he profile as an 8th inning guy if he he has a moving fastball in the mid to upper 90’s, an above average slider and gets both lefty and rightys out?. Is it because he’s thin and has a max effort delivery? Doug Gray December 5, 2016 Because in today’s game closers tend to sit in the upper 90’s, walk a few less guys and still have two plus offerings. Norwood Nate December 5, 2016 Rangers are interested in Hamilton. Who does it take for the Reds to seriously consider a trade? Mazara and Mendez? Greenfield Red December 5, 2016 I’d say either Mazara and Mendez or Mendez, Taveras, and Ragans. I think either deal would benefit the Reds. Colt Holt December 5, 2016 Obviously there is always a price. Like, if the Cubs offered Bryant, I would sign before they have time to change their mind. With that in mind, I can’t imagine a realistic scenario where Hamilton for prospects makes sense actually doing. If I am making the call, I am offering 6 years with a couple options and doing everything I can to extend him. I understand the risks that he is one leg injury away from not carrying his weight on the roster, but he is also SOOO good on defense and baserunning, that any marginal improvement from 2016 with the bat could make him one of the most sought after players in baseball. He is an impact player who is justified as a starter right now. This team has not had a top of the lineup threat since Choo, and he was the first in a while. If Hamilton got on base 34% of the time in front of Votto for the next three years, that would be a phenomenal start to the lineup. With that in mind, I agree that listening make sense as it does for anyone…but lets cling to Hamilton and hope for an extension. I know some will disagree with an extension, but I would think you could ink him to 5-6 years for 35 easy…there just isn’t that much downside. Norwood Nate December 5, 2016 I’m not against an extension to buy out arbitration years and maybe a couple FA years. I wouldn’t extend him past his age 31-32 seasons. The speed will eventually come back to earth. But if the Rangers offer Mazara and one of their top prospects I’m probably trading him. Doubt they’d consider dealing Mazara and I don’t think they can put together an enticing enough package otherwise. Tavares is too far away from contributing IMO. MK December 5, 2016 I imagine if the Rangers would be willing to give up their #1 prospect and more that they would go for Andrew McCutchen. gaffer December 5, 2016 You may be right, but is McCutchen a better CF option than Bham right now? There is probably 5 WAR difference on defense and 10-12 million a year difference! Sure McCutchen has a better bat but that has been declining. wes December 5, 2016 I’d say Mendez or not interested and Rangers will say no because of the OF talent they have. But if your not going to get a potential front of rotation guy- there is no need to trade him. The Duke December 5, 2016 I don’t know, if we could get Leody Taveras, Cole Ragans, and Alex Speas, i’d listen. Jasonp December 5, 2016 I would want Leody Taveras back as well. He could work real well if you think we will have our best team in years 3-6 from now. Some mix of Leody Taveras, Taylor Trammell, Jesse Winker, Aristides Aquino, TJ Friedl, and possibility of a new #2 pick would be nice. Should be enough talent to compete even if a few don’t end up as good as people think they could be. Maybe play Jose Peraza in center this year if Cozart and Phillips are still with the team. If you trade Billy. HavaKlu December 5, 2016 Granted—-everyone wants a closer who sits in the upper 90’s and has a devastating second pitch. But there are plenty of successful closers that don’t fit that description. Mark Melancon———–47 saves—-91.8 FB Francisco Rodriguez—-44 saves—-89.2 FB A J Ramos——————-40 saves—-91,9 FB David Robertson———37 saves—-91.8 FB Jeanmar Gomez———-37 saves—-91.9 FB The Reds obviously think Herget profiles as a closer and I think he’ll remain that until he shows otherwise. gaffer December 5, 2016 Most intelligent people in baseball, unlike Brian Price, know that roles are meaningless. Closer duties are based mostly on ego (older players, higher salary) and dont actually mean that a pitcher is better or has more value to the team. Mariano Rivera was an 8th inning guy to John Wettland for a couple years and had a sub 2.00 ERA, compared to Wetteland with 4-5.00 ERA. That being said I hope Herget is not the best pithcer in our future bullpen (because we need more of them). Doug Gray December 5, 2016 Have you heard the Reds say they profile him as a closer? Every team in the minor leagues has a closer. Hardly any of them profile as actual closers. Just like every team has a #3 hitter, but hardly any of them are ever actual #3 hitters at the big league level. I’m not saying he can’t, or won’t close. But we tend to look at things in terms of profiles when it comes to scouting and his profile is more 8th inning than 9th inning guy.