Reds Spring Training Game Review – 3/15/17 Doug Gray March 15, 2017 27 Comments The Cincinnati Reds picked up the win against the San Diego Padres on Wednesday afternoon in Arizona. The Reds came back, scoring three runs in the bottom of the 8th to win 8-7. They needed the big 3-run 8th after the Padres scored three of their own in the top of the frame. You can see the entire box score for the game here. Cody Reed got the start for the Reds earlier this afternoon. He gave up a 2-run home run in the 1st inning. It came on a pitch that wasn’t bad, a change up at the bottom of the zone. They were the only earned runs he allowed in 3.2 innings. He walked a batter and struck out seven Padres on the afternoon. He now has thrown 11.0 innings with three walks and 15 strikeouts this spring. No other minor leaguers pitched in the game for the Reds. No minor leaguers started the game, perhaps as a treat to the fanbase back in Ohio. Today marked the first local broadcast of the spring and the Reds sent out a lineup that resembled the players (not necessarily the order) you would expect to see opening day. Stuart Turner took over behind the plate for Devin Mesoraco. He kept on swinging a hot bat, going 2-2. That’s raised his average to .450 on the spring. Christian Walker took over for Joey Votto at first base and helped with the comeback with an RBI triple in the 8th, going 1-2 on the day. Zach Vincej only had one trip to the plate but he made it count by smacking a solo home run in the 8th inning. Along with Zack Cozart‘s home run earlier, the Reds shortstops had a good day. Sebastian Elizalde returned from the World Baseball Classic on Wednesday. He walked and scored a run in his only plate appearance of the game. 27 Responses Michael Davis March 15, 2017 Looks like Mez could stay off the disabled list. Cozart certainly likes the early season. Reed missed a few bats, which is a good thing for him. Only spring, Billy’s OBP is pretty much in line with his career. I know, he had a nice second half. Let’s hope he keeps that trajectory. Wes March 15, 2017 Any advantage to keeping reed down to start the season as far as service time? Doug Gray March 15, 2017 Not unless you keep him down until June. Same for Stephenson. Wes March 15, 2017 Keep em both down then Michael B. Green March 15, 2017 Do we need to worry about Wood and Lorenzen yet? Ditto Storen. I know the push is to get Mesoraco as many PA’s as possible (and thus he batted 1st) but I think it is interesting to bat Peraza 1st, Hamilton 2nd and Votto 3rd. BigHurt March 15, 2017 I asked over on red leg, but I am awful curious about what would happen in a situation were the reds lost a grievance against the union for say- sending garret down in June if he is on pace for an All-star appearance. I remember whispers about the cubs facing potential consequences surrounding Bryant, but I never heard actual potential consequences. I’m not sure a situation has played out like that, so maybe we would all learn at the same time. I guess theoretically a player could be granted free agency a year early? Thanks Reagaspad March 15, 2017 Doug was very logical in how he answered that question. Sending down mid year an all star would definitely cause a grievance Let have 3-4 starts at AAA, dominate then promote him for good BigHurt March 15, 2017 We both understand the reason to jockey service time, and we both understand the potential of a grievance being filed. However, what I’m asking is what are some actual ramifications of a successful grievance of this nature against the reds? Doug Gray March 15, 2017 As far as I’m reading, Kris Bryant is the first player to ever challenge this. The MLBPA also filed on behalf of Maikel Franco after that. As far as I can tell, neither case has been settled. However, as the rules seem to be written, the legal experts seem to all think that it’s next to impossible, short of finding proof of them stating exactly why they did it, for a team to lose. BigHurt March 16, 2017 Thanks! Guess no reason to push the envelope and see what might be done. Matthew O'Neal March 15, 2017 I have a hard time seeing how the Reds can justify getting rid of Turner based off of the Spring he’s had. I know carrying 3 catchers is a lot and causes for short bench, but he’s produced really nicely so far. They’ve gotta think about trying him at a corner somewhere for depth, just to give him more reason to be kept? RedsKoolAidDrinker March 15, 2017 I agree w this. And what about giving Mes some time in the outfield bc that’s where he could end up anyways. It’s not like we’re not gonna compete for a championship this year. McLean March 15, 2017 Herrera should file a grievance against the Reds for mismanagement and malfeasance. Putting this kid at 3B to start ST, knowing that he has a chronic shoulder issue, is ignorance at its’ highest. It already has had an impact on his season and economics, and it could — possibly — endanger his career. He should file an MLBPA grievance, and, possibly, hire an attorney to hold Price personally responsible for this possible serious injury. Players are at physical risk due to managers and their decisions, and this move by Price borders on reckless, malicious and capricious. I am sure a trial attorney would be interested in taking this case. Doug Gray March 15, 2017 There’s zero reason to file that grievance. Herrera was healthy. End of the story. Wes March 15, 2017 Really? I mean come on. That’s not just a little extreme? He’s a professional athlete and it’s like an extra 70 ft. You really think that warrants a lawsuit? If he can play 3rd that helps the team RedsKoolAidDrinker March 15, 2017 Yes I agree with McLean. Price should be stoned to death and Castalino should at least be thrown in jail. This is just heinous beyond belief. Colt Holt March 15, 2017 Wow. Just wow. I am going to law school to take on a class action for all pitchers of all time. Since their managers allowed them to pitch, they materially increased the likelihood of a torn ucl. With binders of evidence supporting the highest existence of this injury to a small population of people, management is willingly putting their health at risk. Seems like a slam dunk to me! Brad March 15, 2017 I was at the game today. I like Billy Hamilton’s approach and more level swing. Hopefully he keeps it up and keeps the ball in line drives and on the ground. Lot to like. Stuart Turner is impressive behind the plate. Had two good swings. Surprising speed to make a 3B. One baserunning blunder. Christian Walker laced a 3B into deep Left Center. Generally a 2B with their CF attempting a misguided dive. Swing looks good. Hope he can be the COF/CIF bench guy. I like the way Tony Renda plays. Hard nosed, flexibly position wise. Just shows up and plays hard. Troy March 16, 2017 I was more impressed with walker’s line out to second in his first at bat- ball was absolutely scolded The Duke March 16, 2017 If Mesoraco is ready to start the season, we should try to work out a trade For Turner. I just don’t see how we can carry 3 catchers Unless Schebler is the backup CF, and Peraza plays SS When Cozart sits Barnhart (C) Renda (2B/3B/LF/RF) Walker (3B/1B/LF) Jennings (LF/CF/RF) Turner (C) I suppose that might work actually, but Turner would barely get any work as long As Mesoraco was healthy. HavaKlu March 16, 2017 Would substitute Iribarren for Walker as we need another lefty of the bench and he can play 3rd—-Walker can’t Hingle McCringleberry March 16, 2017 I’m thinking reed is not the future ace people thought he could be. Might be more effective starting in the pen. Hingle McCringleberry March 16, 2017 meant starting out in the pen. The Duke March 16, 2017 Johnny Cueto had a 4.91 ERA his first full year. Let’s not fall into despair over a handful of bad starts as a rookie. Guys that come out and dominate Like Syndergaard are the exception, not the rule. MikeD March 16, 2017 Outside the box: If Barnhart had any value maybe, dangle him for trading. The Reds are in a rebuild mode and need to be creative. Getting another good prospect for Barnhart would not really sacrifice much in the way of the future. Arnold Ziffle March 16, 2017 It certainly does when you are expected to lose Mesoraco after this season or next. Mesoraco is due to make $13MM next year, his last before FA. The Reds might try to shed that obligation next winter. MikeD March 16, 2017 I don’t believe that Tucker is the future. So, if he has any value go get a decent prospect.