Cincinnati Reds Minor League Game Review – 7/12/17 Doug Gray July 13, 2017 37 Comments If you aren’t signed up to support the site through Patreon yet, you can do that today and start getting emails each morning with notes and updates from each game (and other perks). Louisville is off for the AAA All-Star Break. Kevin Shackelford struck out both batters that he faced, needing just 6 total pitches in the Triple-A All-Star game. Pensacola lost 6-3 in 12 innings. Box Score Tyler Goeddel went 1-6 with a solo home run. Josh VanMeter went 1-5 with a walk. Nick Senzel went 3-6 with a run. Gavin LaValley went 2-4 with a double and 2 walks. Nick Longhi went 1-3 with a walk and an RBI. Gabriel Guerrero went 2-6 with 2 doubles and a run. Alex Powers threw 2.1 shutout innings with a walk and 3 strikeouts. Carlos Gonzalez threw 2.2 hitless innings with a walk and 2 strikeouts. Daytona was postponed. Double header Thursday. Dayton lost 9-3 in a rain shortened game. Box Score Jose Siri went 1-3 with a run. Taylor Trammell went 2-3 with a triple, run and an RBI. Bruce Yari went 2-3 with a run and an RBI. Tyler Stephenson went 2-2 with a walk. Billings lost 12-7. Box Score Jeter Downs went 1-2 with a double, 3 walks, 2 runs and an RBI. Miles Gordon went 2-5 with 2 doubles, a run and 4 RBI. Montrell Marshall went 1-4 with a walk. Alejo Lopez went 1-2 with a walk, run, HBP and an RBI. Andy Sugilio went 2-5 with a double and a run. Mark Kolozsvary went 1-4 with a walk and a run. Connor Bennett threw a perfect inning with a strikeout. Miguel Aguilar threw a shutout inning with 2 strikeouts. AZL Reds had the day off. 7/13 Game Preview Team 1st half 2nd half Time (EST) Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live Louisville 35-54 N/A 7:05pm Romano Here Here Here Pensacola 40-30 10-10 7:35pm Mella Here Here Here Daytona 33-32 2-16 4:00pm Gutierrez/Boyles Here Here N/A Dayton 41-29 6-14 7:30pm Jordan Here Here Here Billings 13-10 N/A 9:05pm Alecis Here Here N/A AZL Reds 5-9 N/A 10:00pm TBA Here N/A N/A Top 25 Prospects Daily Rundown Rank Player Level Performance 1 Nick Senzel AA 3-6,, run. 2 Luis Castillo MLB DNP 3 Hunter Greene N/A DNP 4 Sal Romano AAA DNP 5 Jesse Winker MLB DNP 6 Vladimir Gutierrez A+ DNP 7 Tyler Mahle AAA DNP 8 Taylor Trammell A 2-3, 3B, run, RBI. 9 Tyler Stephenson A 2-2, BB. 10 Tony Santillan A 2.1IP, 5H, 7ER, 5BB, 2K. 11 Shed Long AA 0-4, BB, K. 12 Jeter Downs BIL 1-2, 2B, 3BB, run, RBI. 13 Stuart Fairchild BIL 0-3, BB, HBP, run. 14 Jose Siri A 1-3, run, 2K. 15 Aristides Aquino AA 0-2, 2K. 16 Jose Garcia DSL DNP 17 T.J. Friedl A+ DNP 18 Gavin LaValley AA 2-4, 2B, 2BB, K. 19 Jimmy Herget AAA DNP 20 Zack Weiss AA DNP 21 Ariel Hernandez MLB DNP 22 Jackson Stephens AAA DNP 23 Phillip Ervin AAA DNP 24 Alfredo Rodriguez A+ DNP 25 Alex Blandino AAA DNP 37 Responses Jake July 13, 2017 I realize people put up good numbers in Rookie ball but my goodness, at 17, Downs has been mighty impressive with the stick. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 Downs is 18. And he will be 19 before the end of the month. But yeah, he’s out to an incredibly awesome start. Wes July 13, 2017 So since winker got called up and even though there on break he didn’t get to play in all star game he qualified for ? mark l July 13, 2017 he could go to the all star game or get the paycheck and service time…. I think he got the better end of the deal. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 He’s not in Triple-A, so he’s no longer qualified for the game. ephram July 13, 2017 Back in 1990 Chris Hammond did something similar to that. He passed up on pitching in the AAA all star game for the opportunity to be on the Reds’ roster. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 He didn’t pass it up. The choice was made for him. Wes July 13, 2017 I really like to see the reds sneak in one more top 3 pick. I think reds are too good as is to finish that poorly and need to move some pieces even at a below market return for guys like storen Feldman and cozart. Suraez I’m fine w club moving- he seems to start hot every year and then fizzle off a bit and idk where he fits in long term. Lorenzen seems to be having a career year- if I’m contending and need bullpen help and don’t want to pay price for ilgasias- I’d be happy to settle for lorenzen. Be real tough to move Duvall or Billy but I think you have to start making room in outfield for all these guys coming up. Even if you get a below expected return for scherber- I’d be looking to move him. Hope to see reds successfully active at deadline and add one or two fairly top tier prospects. What do y’all wanna see? Kap July 13, 2017 Lorenzen is not untouchable in trades, but his price tag should be steep. Very steep. Plus we don’t need to trade him Hal July 13, 2017 There is not one person that I would go under market to get rid of. There is also no one that I wouldn’t love for the right above market price. Hal July 13, 2017 Move not love Champ Summers July 13, 2017 It was more interesting when the sentence said love. Things were getting so personal. Hal July 13, 2017 Goodness Champ, I just read my first post in its entirety afternoon your comment. That is some funny stuff, awkward on my part ? Reaganspad July 13, 2017 Right price Dan Straily Wrong price Aroldis Chapman Any time you improve the roster you pull the trigger. I tend to “fall in love” (just for you Hal) with our own players. Not a fan of the Jay Bruce trade so far Would of thought the Cueto trade would have been better than the Leake or Simon trades, and it may well turn out. It seemed like we got schooled in the Latos trade but that was a great deal ephram July 13, 2017 Reaganspad, when you said the Chapman trade was the wrong price, does that mean that we actually got something back in return? Heck, even going back to Scott Williamson & Trevor Hoffman, it seems like the Reds prefer to give away closers than actually get anything for them of value. Hopefully that doesn’t carry to form if they ship Rasiel. sultanofswaff July 13, 2017 I think you’re underselling on Eugenio. He’s 2nd on the team in walks and sports a .796 OPS. That’s not a guy you trade when he’s not even eligible for arbitration. Same goes for Schebler and Duvall. Tons of value for very little cost. wes July 13, 2017 I think out of every piece we have to offer he is 2nd or 3rd in value behind ilgasias and possibly Lorenzen. For sure not trading him below market value but willing to unload for right deal at same time. RDriesenUD July 13, 2017 When you are rebuilding you trade guys who aren’t young. Also, you sell high. I wouldn’t give them away, but you have to look at trading everyone. Especially, with the market the Cubs just set. sultanofswaff July 13, 2017 There doesn’t seem to be much for Trammell and Stephenson left to prove at Dayton. Given their ages, the logic to keep them there all season is sound, but I wonder if exposing them to A+ should be in the cards this season. The Reds are historically conservative in how they promote high draft picks, it would be nice to see them push the envelope more. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 The Reds aren’t really conservative in how they promote guys. There aren’t many teams that promote high school draft picks in their first full year out of Low-A unless they are playing other worldly. Guys that play other worldly don’t come around very often. MK July 13, 2017 The transition from High A to AA isa tough one some would say the toughest but I don’t remember anyone who was considered a prospect have as rough a start as Shed Long. It took Blandino multiple years and he was not this bad. Conversely LaValley and Senzel have has a pretty seamless transition which can be unusual. Guess I am most surprised about LaValley who just seems like he had a lightbulb come on and he figured it out. mark l July 13, 2017 with Long, it’s still a really small sample size. It would be much more worrisome if his K rate shot up, but it hasn’t. He may be having a problem, but not sure we have a large enough sample to be sure. I personally think He’ll be fine. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 Shed’s had multiple line outs. He’s literally had a home run pulled back over the wall. HE’s got a .128 BABIP. Even BAD hitters tend to have a BABIP TWICE that high. He’s been about as unlucky as it gets so far. Stock July 13, 2017 Long currently has a .128 BABIP now. Far below his career norms. If he were at career norms in BABIP he would be hitting about .290 now. His K/BB ratio has actually gone up dramatically. He pulled the ball 32% of the time in A+ and is doing it 32% of the time in AA. He went up the middle 31% of the time in A+ and is at 30% in AA. If he would have turned 2 of his FB into LD his LD/FB/GB % would be the same also. He has been very unlucky in AA. It will come around. Greenfield Red July 13, 2017 White Sox farm system. Wow. With latest trade, 9 of the top 68. Kap July 13, 2017 Quintana will help, but not much. They have a lot more problems Kap July 13, 2017 the cubs I’m talking Bill July 13, 2017 The Cubs farm system is now very much back in the middle of the pack. While none of the players traded by the Cubs were on the verge of contributing in the majors either this year or next, the Cubs will have more difficulty acquiring major league caliber talent for prospects near term. While the White Sox have acquired some really top talent, performance among there top ranked players has been more lukewarm during the first half of this year. It will be interesting to see how many remain Top 100 prospects once all of the mid-season ranking are posted. sultanofswaff July 13, 2017 I kinda think the ChiSox could’ve gotten more. Despite the rankings of Jimenez and Cease, both were sporting good-not-great numbers in A ball. I’m suprised the Sox didn’t insist on an impact player closer to the bigs. wes July 13, 2017 Great seeing Cubs trading all their best pieces to AL teams! Gonna help a TON down the road for Reds! Also this trade puts a TON of pressure on Nationals to keep pace. Cozart and Ilglasias for Robles is looking more and more like something that may happen! Glad to see things going down this early. Hope for reds we see an active deadline. Greenfield Red July 13, 2017 Do you think the Reds can get Robles and Soto for Iglasias and Cozart? Based upon this deal, I do. sultanofswaff July 13, 2017 The market for prospects just experienced a lot of inflation. It puts more pressure on other teams to follow suit. That can only help the Reds. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 If I’m trading both of those guys to Washington, I want more than Robles and Soto. But that’s a nice start. wes July 13, 2017 No. Doubt they trade both those guys. They are going to have to replace Harper soon. Also we were going to give Cozart away in the past offseason…Maybe if we throw in Lorenzen but don’t want to see reds trade both relievers. I’ll be absolutely thrilled w Robles though. Prob give us #2 system behind WhiteSox. sultanofswaff July 13, 2017 I would think the equivalent offer from the Reds for Quintana would be something like Trammell/Vlad Gutierrez/AlfRod. I’d probably pass on that deal. Doug Gray July 13, 2017 Jimenez = Senzel Cease = Mahle At least if we are going to go with the Baseball America Midseason Rankings. And the Cubs also tossed in two other guys. Brad July 13, 2017 Will be an interesting deadline. By Keith Laws top 50 prospect list out today: Reds could have had a top-50 arm in Luiz Gohara for Cozart, but they dont Say, Cozart and Iglesias to Washington for Robles, Soto and Kieboom. Gives Reds 2 more top 50 guys by Law. Flexible on 3rd piece in deal. Can see Storen and Feldman moved for lesser pieces. Maybe A-ball gives with some potential. Say 18-30 on most team lists. Maybe two prospects for each guy depending on strength of farm. Its really too bad Desclafani is not healthy. He would have great value as Quintana and Gray are really two only cost controlled SP on market. Archer and Rays are still in race. Imagine if Iglesias and Cozart plus Desclafani could each bring back 2 top-100 prospects go to along with Senzel, Greene, Mahle, Castillo, etc. I like Reds prospect depth better than White Sox but White Sox high end guys over Reds at this point.