Cincinnati Reds Minor League Game Review – 8/26/17 Doug Gray August 27, 2017 26 Comments If you aren’t signed up to support the site through Patreon yet, you can do that today and start getting emails each morning with notes and updates from each game (and other perks). Louisville won 9-6. Box Score Darnell Sweeney went 1-4 with 2 walks, a run and an RBI. Tyler Goeddel went 1-3 with 2 walks and a run. Brandon Dixon went 2-5 with a double and an RBI. Hernan Iribarren went 1-4 with an RBI. Alex Blandino went 1-3 with 2 walks, a double and 2 runs. Zach Vincej went 3-4 with a walk, home run (3) and 2 RBI. Jose Duarte went 2-5 with an RBI. Rafael De Paula threw a shutout inning with a walk and a strikeout. Pensacola lost 5-0. Box Score Blake Butler went 2-4. Aristides Aquino went 1-3. Jonathan Reynoso went 1-3. Alex Powers allowed a run in 2.1 innings with 2 walks and 5 strikeouts. Zack Weiss threw a perfect inning with 2 strikeouts. Tanner Rainey threw a perfect inning with 3 strikeouts. Daytona was postponed. Double header Sunday. Dayton lost 5-4. Box Score Randy Ventura went 1-3 with 2 walks, 2 steals, a run and an RBI. Taylor Sparks went 3-4 with a double, home run (4) and 3 RBI. Michael Beltre went 1-4 with a triple and a run. Scott Moss allowed 3 runs in 6.0 innings with 9 strikeouts. Billings lost 5-4. Box Score Jeter Downs went 2-4 with a double, run and an RBI. Miles Gordon went 1-3 with a walk and a run. Stuart Fairchild went 3-4 with a run an RBI. Leandro Santana went 2-4 with a double. Mark Kolozsvary went 1-4 with a run. Mac Sceroler threw 4.0 hitless innings with 2 walks and 3 strikeouts. Connor Bennett allowed a run in 2.0 innings with 2 walks and 2 strikeouts. AZL Reds had the night off. 8/27 Game Preview Team 1st half 2nd half Time (EST) Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live Louisville 52-80 N/A 6:05pm Stephens Here Here Here Pensacola 40-30 28-33 5:05pm Mella Here Here Here Daytona 33-32 15-45 3:05pm Crawford/TBA Here Here N/A Dayton 41-29 24-38 2:05pm Santillan Here Here Here Billings 18-19 9-15 6:05pm Greene Here Here N/A AZL Reds 20-28 N/A 10:00pm TBA Here N/A N/A Top 25 Prospects Daily Rundown Rank Player Level Performance 1 Nick Senzel AA DNP 2 Luis Castillo MLB 7IP, 3H, 1ER, 1BB, 9K. 3 Hunter Greene BIL DNP 4 Sal Romano MLB DNP 5 Jesse Winker MLB/DL DNP 6 Vladimir Gutierrez A+ DNP 7 Tyler Mahle MLB DNP 8 Taylor Trammell A 0-3, BB, steal, run, K. 9 Tyler Stephenson DL DNP 10 Tony Santillan A DNP 11 Shed Long AA/DL DNP 12 Jeter Downs BIL 2-4, 2B, run, RBI, K. 13 Stuart Fairchild BIL 3-4, run, RBI. 14 Jose Siri A 0-3, BB, steal, K. 15 Aristides Aquino AA 1-3. 16 Jose Garcia DSL DNP 17 T.J. Friedl A+/DL DNP 18 Gavin LaValley AA 1-4, K. 19 Jimmy Herget AAA DNP 20 Zack Weiss AA 1IP, 0H, 0ER, 0BB, 2K. 21 Ariel Hernandez AAA 0IP, 0H, 2ER, 3BB, 0K. 22 Jackson Stephens AAA DNP 23 Phillip Ervin MLB DNP 24 Alfredo Rodriguez A+ DNP 25 Alex Blandino AAA 1-3, 2B, 2B, 2 runs. 26 Responses Ty August 27, 2017 Can someone please tell me what happened to Shed Long? RedsKoolAidDrinker August 27, 2017 Call me crazy but I’m going to assume that Scott Moss enters Doug’s Top 25. Cguy August 27, 2017 Call me even crazier. Maybe 21st or 22nd on Doug’s list. MK August 27, 2017 Jose Duarte has 5 hits in two games with the Bats. He did not get 5 at bats while spending most of the season inactive with the Dragons. Yet they have a backup now who is barely hitting .100 and a starter under .200. Greenfield Red August 27, 2017 I’m glad he’s getting a chance to play a little. I wonder why they would have him on the payroll and never play him? Tampa Red August 27, 2017 I saw someone’s 40-man projection and that is kind of an obsession with me, so here’s mine. This isn’t necessarily what I would do, but what I think the Reds will do, assuming there is no change in management, no late trades and no additional significant injuries. Last few arms on the pitching staff is very difficult to predict. Not really sure how Reds management views guys like Stephens, Astin, Chacin, Adelman, etc. P (23): Bailey, Finnegan, Disco, Castillo, Romano, Mahle, Garrett, Davis, Reed, Stephens, Stephenson, Iglesias, Lorenzen, Peralta, Brice, Mella, Travieso, Wojo, Adelman, Hernandez, Chacin, Weiss, Lopez. C (3): Meseraco, Barnhart, Turner IF (7): Votto, Gennett, Peraza, Suarez, Herrera, Blandino, Long OF (7): Duvall, Hamilton, Schebler, Winker, Ervin, Khivlehan, Siri. Just missed: Aquino ( I just cant see a big league team stashing him for an entire season and it would really stunt his development). LaValley (think they’ll roll the dice with him because of position) Dixon (really like him as a utility guy, he’ll go somewhere) Vincej (doesn’t hit enough) Goedell (I can see a scenario in which the Reds protect him) Longhi (injury killed his chance) Astin (just no big league production, limited pitches). Others: Elizalde, Sweeney, Jagielo, Strahan, Howard, Crawford. Hopefully they’ll stick around. Greenfield Red August 27, 2017 Pretty good list. These 40 man Rule 5 draft lists beg a couple of questions for me: Since there is a definite schedule that must be kept for these young guys, what happens once a guy has passed the deadline, been exposed to Rule 5, not chosen? Does he have to be protected the next year also or is he exposed again? What about guys who were on the 40 man, become dfa’d, accept an assignment to the minors? What happens to their schedule? Thanks Tampa Red August 27, 2017 I believe that minor leaguers are obligated to stick with their original team, who they signed their first professional contract, for 6-7 seasons, not sure which. So unless the player who is left exposed to the Rule 5 draft is selected by another team, he is obligated to return to his his organization. This would apply to guys like LaValley, Aquino, Vincej, etc., and it would NOT apply to guys like Dixon, Longhi, who have been traded. I think that they will become minor league free agents if not protected this offseason. Feel free to correct any misinterpretations of the rules!! Doug Gray August 27, 2017 You have to be protected every year once you’ve reached that point or you’re eligible to be drafted. It’s why every so often you’ll see guys signed to Major League deals when they weren’t in the Majors and became minor league free agents. Guys like Blake Wood or Rey Navarro jump to mind. They were minor league free agents but signed big league deals because the teams wanted them, but had to protect them from the Rule 5. If a guy that is Rule 5 eligible goes undrafted, they remain in the organization that they were in before then. If they are a free agent, they remain so. MK August 27, 2017 On Aquino, a lot of guys with less talent have been stashed on a roster. His current teammate Goeddel is an example. Tampa Red August 27, 2017 That is very true. And the Reds may very well protect Aquino. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t have any problem with that. Tampa Red August 27, 2017 Thanks Doug. Once signed to their original pro contract, how long does a team have exclusive rights to that player, even if never added to the 40-man? Doug Gray August 27, 2017 6 years. Norwood Nate August 27, 2017 We pretty much made the same conclusions minus two guys. I protected Goeddel and Aquino and left off Adelman and Travieso. For Adelman, I just don’t see anyone claiming him, and I like Wojo’s stuff a little more. It came down to those two for the last spot for me. As for Travieso, I don’t see claiming him due to the fact that he won’t pitch much next season and his last season at AA was sort of middling. I also believe the Reds will attempt to trade a corner OF guy this offseason. That would potentially lead to a shortage of minor league Offers on the 40-man. The Reds could start off with Duvall/Shebler, Winker, Hamilton, Kivlehan, and Ervin on the 25-man roster. That leaves Aquino as the only other 40-man OF’er. Which is why I would chose to protect him and Goeddel. Tampa Red August 27, 2017 Those last few spots are very tough. With Adelman, i think there are any number of teams that would have a spot on their roster for him. He had a pretty good year last year, and has had his moments this year. I think he’s a big leaguer. The question is, is he enough of a big leaguer to protect? I “think” the Reds will. We’ll see, you could easily be right about that. With Aquino, if it was a 41 man roster, I think the Reds would definitely protect him. He would be the biggest potential loss from my projected roster, nonquestion about it. The Reds may decide that the risk is too great. You’re probably right about that one. Tampa Red August 27, 2017 Forgot to comment on Travieso. You make a great point on him. If claimed, I think he will have to be active for at least 60 days right? I’m not really a rules guy, but if that is correct, then very good chance he will be left off 40-man. Leaving an open spot for….Aquino? Like I said, those last few spots are going to require some tough choices. Colorado Marc August 27, 2017 Tampa, I think if the player is on the DL, he must be on the 25 man roster for the same amount of time next year (may be a days of difference). So, you cannot claim someone put him on the 60, and send him to the minors the next year. Norwood Nate August 27, 2017 I believe, after looking at the rules yesterday, that the player must be on the active roster for at least 90 days or they would have to keep him on the roster the next year as well. I could be a little off on that last part, but 90 days is what I read when trying to look up rules. Nobody August 27, 2017 Does anyone have updates on Senzel and Reed? Doug Gray August 27, 2017 Reed is pitching tomorrow. MK August 27, 2017 Nefi Ogando outrighted to Louisville. IndyRedsFan August 27, 2017 Regarding the 40 man and Rule 5….I believe there is a key consideration for players currently on the 40 man. My understanding is that before a player can be out-righted to the minors, they have to pass thru waivers. In that scenario, another team can claim the player and simply option them to the minors….assuming the player has options remaining. So, removing players already on the 40 man (Travieso, Acquino, Astin, Shakelford, Wallach) is a much greater risk since a team claiming them off waivers isn’t obligated to keep them on their 25 man roster under the rqmts of Rule 5. Given that, I don’t see the Reds risking Travieso or Acquino to the waiver process. Again, this is my understanding of how the process works. Anyone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Norwood Nate August 27, 2017 I believe you’re correct. The Reds added a couple of guys to the organization by claiming them last year when teams were making their 40-man additions. I don’t think Aquino would make it through waivers. Travieso, I’m not sure. He had shoulder surgery in mid-June this year. He’s expected to be out 9 months putting him back around mid-March-beginning of April. That’s with no setbacks. When’s the last time the Reds medical staff had a pitcher back on the schedule they announced at the outset? Even if he’s back around the start of the season, he hasn’t pitched in over a year. He’ll need a rehab stint before taking the mound. I’m doubtful we see him before June of next season and that’s my best case scenario. It makes for a risky add, for a guy who’ll be on his 2nd option already and not out of AA, and was only so-so in his previous season at AA. Not many teams will want to add a pitcher to their 40-man roster who may only get half a season in. At least I wouldn’t think so. Doug Gray August 27, 2017 Travieso has not used an option. Didn’t spend enough time “down” this year before being recalled and then 60-day DL’d. Norwood Nate August 27, 2017 Good to know. Thanks. Tampa Red August 27, 2017 That’s a great point. That is in fact exactly how the Reds ended up with guys like Gennett and Bonilla. Which make Travieso and Aquino locks for the Reds 40-man, especially given that they still have 2-3 option years left. I guess it remains to be seen about the rest.