The Cincinnati Reds made a move today that could mean a lot. Or it could mean very little. Nick Krall has been promoted to General Manager of the Reds. He was previously the Assistant to the Regional General Manager for the organization. He also held the designation as Vice President (a designation that five others also have).

Nick Krall has been with the Reds for 16 seasons. He began with the organization in the advanced scouting program back in 2003 and has worked his way up the latdder. He has served as the Assistant Director of Baseball Operations and the Sr. Director of Baseball Operations before being promoted to Assistant General Manager. Before joining the Reds he worked for the Oakland Athletics in 2001 and 2002.

Here’s the official statement from the Cincinnati Reds:

After reading that, it’s nice to see that he’s been so involved in other areas of the organization and has a good understanding of them. The part that is a little confusing to me is this line:

Nick will be more heavily involved in the decisions we need to make to improve our product on the field at both the Major League and minor league levels.

Nick Krall, not to be confused with the hilarious Nick Kroll, was Vice President, Assistant General Manger yesterday. Shouldn’t he have been heavily involved in the decisions already? I mean, yes, he probably gets a little more say now, but it reads like he wasn’t having a ton of say prior to this. I’ve never worked in a front office. I never will, but that line just reads a bit strange to me. Of course, I may just be reading into the whole thing, too.

The Reds are now one of many organizations who have a President of Baseball Operations AND a General Manager who aren’t the same person. Dick Williams was previously both of those things for the Reds. Now those jobs will be separate. How the roles will be divided up isn’t exactly stated here. And we may not ever really know. But, generally speaking, the overall plan of the organization is usually set by the President of Baseball Operations, while the day-to-day stuff, and roster stuff, is usually set by the General Manager.

19 Responses

  1. David

    This is the line that I really like: “In 2008, he was promoted to Assistant Director of Baseball Operations a position he held until 2013, when he was promoted to Assistant Director of Baseball Operations.”

    He got promoted to the same position. Nice.

    • Rob

      Awesome!!! Did not notice that. So much for attention to detail…

  2. Steve

    Walt, Dick, and Nick.

    Baseball’s version of the 3 Stooges.

    • Ferg

      It would be nice to read something with some substance. The negativity is ugly.
      I know it’s not my place, just replying to your comment.

      • Reggie

        The rebuild is enough evidence of the moronic path they have layed upon us. Clean house!

  3. Alex Reds

    It’s hard to tell what this really means or would change.

    My thought is with Dick being the son of a part owner, they couldn’t really fire him or bring in a new GM. So they moved him into a protected role as President of Baseball Operations and created a new position that can be replaced that is attractive to external candidates in seniority and title.

    If the rebuild fails, then the General Manager role can be replaced with an external candidate and Krall can be blamed. Dick will say he shares in the blame, but he won’t be the one being replaced. Nick Krall has been the go to guy as Assistant GM to a non-baseball scouting background leader in Williams. If the rebuild fails, Krall is the fall guy and has been instrumental in the decisions in the past.

    Also, saying Krall will have more decision making when they have the same reporting structure still, when he already had the same level of decision authority in chain of command before, seems to suggest that they are putting him clearly in place to be the fall guy instead of Dick Williams. This new position can be exchanged for a new GM if they need to do that in the future.

    • victor vollhardt

      Maybe, just maybe the Harvey/Mesoraco deal was the “straw” that broke ownership’s back. Now a results only baseball guy will be making the moves and seeing that the talent balance sheets match up. The Reds pay 13 million for a player NOT to play for them and the Mets pay almost 6 million for a bad attitude p layer Not to play for them. They were prepared to eat the whole amount just to have Harvey gone and were really desperate for a catcher . What they got was a potential starting young(30 in June) catcher (with experience) for under 6 million and oh yeah the catcher is noted for his on field and clubhouse presence.

      • RedsinWashst

        So you don’t think they ran that trade by management eh. I think you are wrong about that. It could be they are dividing the work up a little more. Especially with the draft coming up. But some of you make a big deal about everything.

      • Doug Gray

        Ownership had to approve that trade because of the money involved. So I doubt that deal had anything at all to do with what’s happening today.

  4. Norwood Nate

    It’s funny you mentioned Nick Kroll because every time I read Nick Krall’s name I can’t help but picture Kroll. It does make my imaginations about how the Reds FO is run a lot funnier however.

  5. Tom

    Williams seemed to have a dislike of the paperwork from what I heard in the Reddit AMA. It surprised him how much transactional paper pushing went on. I think he wanted out of that role and wants more of the oversight and guidance. Could be a good thing to make this change early and get Williams in a role he likes and can excel at.

  6. Stewie Griffin.

    Wayne Krivsky 2006-2008
    Dan O’Brien 2003-2005

    If they just woulda left these guys alone. Decent drafting and scouting. wasn’t great but stable.

  7. KANYE WEST

    IN OTHER WORDS, JOCKETTY STILL RUNS THE SHOW. THIS IS EMBARRASSING . THERE IS SO MUCH FAT IN THE FRONT OFFICE.

    • greg

      The “caps lock” button is on the left side of your keyboard, right under “tab”. Hope that helps!

  8. another bob in nc

    This happened after an exhaustive search?

    • greg

      You’ve missed the point. These moves are often made because they want to keep someone, not because there’s a hole to fill.

      • victor vollhardt

        When I started my post with the line “Maybe, just maybe”— I thought everybody would get the idea that the first part of the post (Krall’s “promotion”) was just tongue in cheek. The second part of my post was all the bad points in the trade that made it a no win situation. Even if Harvey pitches well he won’t resign with the Reds and with his past “baggage” won’t bring a viable prospect. Then REDSINWASHST and Mr. Gray pointed out that ownership had to sign off on this deal as well. I am sure both are right. Which means that even the bottom line guys, the hard nosed business people who comprise ownership have thrown logic out the window. My tongue in cheek first part still stands(meant to be funny) and I thank both posters for pointing out rightly what I am sure to be correct facts—However this only takes the second part of my post from a statement of facts to a very chilling warning of the future thinking and abilities in the front office.

  9. Gilbert Keith Chesterton

    When you are driving a car that is careening out of control, it guess it’s best to squeeze as many butts into the driver’s seat as possible.

    It’s easier for the drivers to excuse themselves of guilt, and assign blame for the car crash when there are more people to point fingers at.