Cincinnati Reds Minor League Game Review: 6/11/18 Doug Gray June 11, 2018 33 Comments If you aren’t signed up to support the site through Patreon yet, you can do that today and start getting emails each morning with notes and updates from each game (and other perks, including a rundown of how each of the Reds Top 25 prospects performed the night before). Louisville lost 7-4. Box Score Nick Senzel went 2-4 with a double, run, and he had an RBI. Hernan Iribarren went 0-2 with 2 walks and a run scored. Dilson Herrera went 1-4 with a home run (6) and 3 RBI. Gabby Guerrero went 2-4. Blake Trahan went 1-3 with a run scored and a walk. Homer Bailey (rehab) allowed 5 runs in 3.0 innings with a walk and a strikeout. Jackson Stephens allowed a run in 2.0 innings with 2 walks and a strikeout. Evan Mitchell allowed a run in 2.0 innings with 2 walks and a strikeout. Tanner Rainey threw a perfect inning with a strikeout. Kevin Quackenbush threw a hitless inning with a walk and 2 strikeouts. Pensacola was postponed. Double header Tuesday. Daytona lost a double header 5-4, 5-3. Game 1: 5-4 loss. Box Score This game was resumed from May 26th. Taylor Trammell went 3-5. Mitch Nay went 1-4 with a walk. Jose Siri went 1-4 with a walk. Tyler Stephenson went 1-5 with a double and a run scored. Narciso Crook went 1-2 with a run and a triple (on May 26th – he’s now in Double-A). Bruce Yari went 1-2 with a walk and an RBI. Ibandel Isabel went 1-5 with a home run (16) and 2 RBI. Brantley Bell went 1-3 with a double, walk, and a run scored. Hector Vargas went 3-4 with an RBI. Alex Webb threw 2.0 shutout innings with a strikeout (May 26th). Juan Martinez threw 4.0 shutout innings with 3 strikeouts. Game 2: 5-3 loss. Box Score Brantley Bell went 1-3 with an RBI. Tyler Stephenson went 1-3 with a solo home run (6). Ibandel Isabel went 0-1 with 2 walks. Michael Beltre went 1-2 with a walk and a run scored. Tommy Bergjans allowed 2 runs in 4.2 innings with 2 strikeouts. Dayton lost 4-3. Box Score Randy Ventura went 2-5 with an RBI and a steal. Jeter Downs went 1-5 with an RBI and a stolen base (18). Montrell Marshall went 1-4 with a double and a run scored. Hendrik Clementina went 1-4. Andy Sugilio went 1-3 with an RBI. Mark Kolozsvary went 1-3 with a walk and a run scored. Leandro Santana went 2-4 with a double and a run scored. Austin Orewiler threw 3.0 shutout innings of relief with a walk and 2 strikeouts. Ryan Nutof threw 2.0 shutout innings of relief. 6/12 Game Preview Team 1st half 2nd half Time (ET) Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live Louisville 22-37 N/A 7:00pm Reed Here Here Here Pensacola 26-35 0-0 6:00pm Gutierrez/TBA Here Here Here Daytona 32-28 0-0 4:00pm TBA/TBA Here Here N/A Dayton 29-33 0-0 7:05pm Naughton Here Here Here 33 Responses Colorado Red June 11, 2018 I know this is the first rehab, but Homer must not have looked good at all. It is looking like Homer is done. The only thing that might wake him up, is a DFA. Better to cut the loses on Homer, then keep pitching him. Going to have to pay him anyway Reply Wes June 12, 2018 So let’s say he’s owed 35M over rest of contract. Reds offer to buy him out for 25M if he retires. Odds are he walks away from more money then he will make over the rest of his life so that ain’t happeneing. Option 2 reds pay him off and cut him. If he’s owed 35M over 15 months; not like those funds are sitting in a savings account. Rich folks get outstanding returns on their money and economy is good so 10% isn’t unreasonable. So that’s 4 million in interest they would loose to just get rid of him- that ain’t happening either anytime soon. Option 3, bailey takes all the money minus interest. Reds still write a check for 30+ million that they were previously deferring over next 15 months. It’s not like money is just pouring in right now, probably a hard check to stomach and also would potentially effect offseason signing bonuses. Unlikely scenario. Option 4 he goes back to cincy. Puts on his clown mask and rides the pine through rest of this year and most of next. Only showing face in long relief when reds are already down 5 runs. Option 4 is only realistic option available imo. Reply Stock June 12, 2018 if the Reds DFA Homer they do not pay him a lump sum. They continue to pay him his monthly salary for the next 15 months so scenario 2 should happen at some point. Wes June 12, 2018 In that case, the only reason to keep him to tank. He will surely go out and get u a loss every 5th day. Ben June 11, 2018 Homer’s looks as bad in the minors as in the bigs. Reply kevinz June 11, 2018 Batting lead off for our Reds looking like Senzel i know it early small sample size in the spot. My thought was the 2 hole but not far off i guess lol.. Keep good health there Mr. Senzel hope watch you every game on Extra innings here soon lol Reply John June 11, 2018 I thought Crook was in Pensacola? Reply Doug Gray June 12, 2018 Looks like you skipped the first line from that one…. That was the game resumed that was suspended by rain on May 26th. Crook started that game and was in Daytona at the time. When it resumed today he was replaced by Bruce Yari. Reply MK June 12, 2018 The Crook thing through me off a little when I was looking at the box score last night. Now I am like duhh. MK June 12, 2018 threw not through MichaelA June 12, 2018 Clementina has been nothing but a joy this year. Who knows if he will actually pan out but he is a reason that following MiLB is so much fun! Keep it going young man!!! Reply CP June 12, 2018 He has been great for sure. By the offense you would think a promotion is in order, but it seems like his defense needs more time to improve. Makes me wonder about T. Stephenson some too. Does he get a promotion to AA at some point this year or will they slow play them both for development sake? Reply MK June 12, 2018 I can tell you Hendrick is fired up about starting in the All Star game and as great as he is to follow on the field he is that nice of a kid off. As far as a promotion for him, remember this will be his first experience in a full season league which is an exhausting schedule let alone doing it as a catcher. I know he looks older but he can legally buy a beer starting Sunday. Reply RedsinWashSt June 12, 2018 Nice to know MK. Chi Reds Fan June 12, 2018 Has anyone done analysis on what is wrong with Bailey, I am not expert on interpreting fangraphs but it seems his velocity overall is only down marginally but the effectiveness of his slider which was his “pitch” has collapsed, but why? https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8362&position=P Reply CP June 12, 2018 He is going to have to learn to reinvent himself or this may be the end. Part of that might be accepting a role in the bullpen. His pride may get in the way of that. Guess we will see which is more embarrassing to him soon. Being in an MLB bullpen, or not being in the MLB at all… Reply Krozley June 12, 2018 Here is what Johnny Bench said a couple weeks ago. “It’s time for Homer @Reds to change his delivery. For 4 years I’ve watched and he just shows the ball too long. No deception. I just think the change would benefit him. The hitter sees the ball for 63 ft almost.” I’d tend to listen the greatest catcher of all time. Reply Tom June 12, 2018 Completely just a sense I get, but Meso and Barnhart always seemed less involved and less savvy than Hanigan when working a staff. Maybe Bench could help. donny June 12, 2018 I honestly just don’t think he wants to pitch anymore and he wants to go and live on his farm. The young man has been through alot. From all the injuries and rehabs to all the hate and negative criticism from the fans over the years. Not trying to be negative or anything or pretend like i know Bailey but i wouldn’t blame him if he has retirement on his mind. Reply Stock June 12, 2018 I think it is several things. 1. His FB is slower and straighter than ever. If you can’t make ML hitters respect your FB the results on all other pitches will suffer. 2. Predictability. Versus LHH Bailey is basically the same. However, vs. RHH he seems to favor the outside corner far more than he did when he was an average pitcher. 3. Attitude. Homer seemed to have problems showing up for every game when the Reds were good. Now that they suck he doesn’t seem into it. 4. His release point has changed somewhat the last couple of years. I don’t know if that is good or bad. As I said when the contract was signed. This was a terrible contract. All he does now is make a bad team worse. He provides no value at all. At least Arroyo was a mentor. Reply Ben June 12, 2018 Hi Doug. Can I make a request? In your daily emails to subscribers, can you add “position” to your Top 25 Prospect Ranking? It’d be nice to have that chart while watching the Reds lose so I can see how far away help is. Thanks. Reply Doug Gray June 12, 2018 Done. Reply Kindell June 12, 2018 -Senzel is starting to absolutely rake again. -Trammell just continues to stay close to a .400 OBP in high A. Hopefully we see what he can do in AA for the rest of the year. -I don’t know if I have personally seen a better start to a month than what Isabel is putting together. .316/.409/1.026 9 HR in 44 plate appearances. Reply Norwood Nate June 12, 2018 If Bailey doesn’t improve, and the Reds don’t have the stones to DFA him, then it continues to be a messy situation. Even with marginal improvements it’s hard to argue he’s the best option to keep a rotation spot. Bailey says he doesn’t think he can relieve because it takes him too long to warm up. If that’s the case why not give him the Romo treatment? Let him start and go 1-2 innings, or until he runs into trouble, and then piggy back Romano behind him. That way he stays a starter but we’re still limiting the amount of innings he’s out there, hopefully mitigating some of the damage. Reply Tom June 12, 2018 Something’s got to happen. I’m afraid Bailey might be the worst bullpen pitcher as well. I’d rather see him face the back of the lineup than the front. Until we see he’s unable to warm up I’d think he’s better off as a 7th inning long relief guy to begin. Reply jim t June 12, 2018 How would that effect your Bull pen?? If he isn’t effective he should be DFA Reply Norwood Nate June 12, 2018 I agree the Reds should DFA him instead of creating the circus of events. I just don’t think they are ready to do it. In lieu of that happening, this may be an option if he can’t relieve. asinghoff June 12, 2018 I’ll add one. Jonathan India: 1 for 2 with a HR, 3 walks. First Florida player with 20 HRs since Matt LaPorta in 2007. Reply AirborneJayJay June 12, 2018 Well, Homer’s surly attitude hasn’t changed at all. RLN’s Jason what’s his name had this after his outing. “Just talked to Homer. Said he felt fine physically, but wasn’t hitting his spots. As for the plan once he’s ready to return, he said, “You’ll probably know before I do.”” They just have to milk the rehab time and outings to the maximum time allowed and if Homer hasn’t improved any, it will be time to cut bait. The ball is in Homer’s court, be an effective ML pitcher or be unemployed. It is only money that is earmarked for the 2019 season. Bite the bullet and pay the man his money in 2018. The bad with that comes that any free agent spending the Reds front office might have done this off-season could be delayed a year. Which might delay the infamous Rebuild by another year. That I could not take, nor stomach. The Reds and their daily trepidation. What land mine will the Reds front office step on next? Probably trading Scooter while keeping Duvall, Hamilton and Schebler in the outfield. Reply Matthew O'Neal June 12, 2018 Can Gabby Guerrero play CF? Reply Doug Gray June 12, 2018 Not in my opinion, at least at the big league level. Reply MK June 12, 2018 Unless he is going to reinvent himself as a knuckleball pitcher he is probably done. One arm surgery is hard to recover from multiple surgeries which Homer has experienced makes it very difficult. If he didn’t have the contract he would probably be home. Reply RedsFaninPitt June 12, 2018 Time to trade Gennett within the next couple weeks to LA Dodgers/Angels, Indians, Mariners, Diamondbacks or Nationals. Move Herrera up to play 2B while exploring Senzel in OF(CF particularly). Trade Iglesias at deadline for pitching and/or SS, and then let all the young kids play to figure out what holes you need to fill by trades/free agent signings during the offseason. 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