Cincinnati Reds Minor League Game Review: 8/7/18 Doug Gray August 8, 2018 36 Comments If you aren’t signed up to support the site through Patreon yet, you can do that today and start getting emails each morning with notes and updates from each game (and other perks, including a rundown of how each of the Reds Top 25 prospects performed the night before). Louisville lost 3-2. Box Score Brian O’Grady went 1-4 with a home run (9) and 2 RBI. Blake Trahan went 1-4. Gabriel Guerrero went 3-4. D.J. Peterson went 2-4. Taylor Sparks went 1-3 with a double and a run scored. Jose Lopez allowed 2 earned in 5.0 innings with a walk and 4 strikeouts. Jackson Stephens (rehab) threw a shutout inning. Domingo Tapia threw a shutout inning with 2 strikeouts. Austin Brice threw 2.0 shutout innings with a walk and a strikeout. Pensacola had the night off. Daytona won 9-8. Box Score Randy Ventura went 3-4 with a walk, 2 runs scored, and he had 2 RBI. Ibandel Isabel went 1-5 with a double. Bruce Yari went 2-2 with 3 walks, a double, a home run (5), and he had 4 RBI. Taylor Trammell went 1-4 with a double. He left the game early. Brantley Bell went 3-5 with a double, steal (12), and he scored a run. Stuart Fairchild went 2-4 with a walk, triple, RBI, and he scored 2 runs. Michael Beltre went 1-2 with 2 walks, a triple, 2 RBI, and he scored 2 runs. Carlos Diaz threw 2.0 shutout innings with a walk and 4 strikeouts. Joel Kuhnel threw 1.1 shutout innings with a strikeout. Dayton had the night off. Billings is on the All-Star break. Greeneville lost 9-5. Box Score Mike Siani went 2-5 with a run scored. Claudio Finol went 2-5 with a run scored. Jonathan Willems went 2-4 with a 3-run home run (6) and he scored 2 runs. Brian Rey went 1-4. Justin Bellinger went 1-4 with an RBI. Miguel Hernandez went 1-4. Raul Juarez went 2-4 with a double and an RBI. Alexis Diaz allowed 2 earned in 4.0 innings with 3 walks and he had 6 strikeouts. Johnnie Schneider was charged with an unearned run in 2.0 innings with a walk. AZL had the night off. 8/8 Game Preview Team 1st half 2nd half Time (ET) Probable Box Score Listen Live Watch Live Louisville 50-61 N/A 7:00pm Reed Here Here Here Pensacola 30-38 29-15 Varner 7:35pm Here Here Here Daytona 37-29 22-23 7:05pm Moss Here Here N/A Dayton 31-37 20-24 7:05pm Orewiler Here Here Here Billings 15-23 9-2 All-Star Break Here Here Here Greeneville 18-27 N/A 7:05pm Karcher Here Here N/A AZL Reds 8-30 0-0 10:00pm TBA Here N/A N/A 36 Responses Jim t August 8, 2018 Doug does Ervin project to be a guy who could field the position well enough to play CF in the majors. Doug Gray August 8, 2018 I don’t know. He’s hitting like he’s never hit before. It’s worth finding out. He should be starting every single day, and he should play center field at least a few times a week. jim t August 8, 2018 Doug my eye test is that he gets terrible reads on balls. Also as pointed out he does miss a bunch of cut off men as well. He should have those fundamentals down at this point in his career. MK August 8, 2018 Not if he can’t hit a cutoff man. He missed three on one throw today. jim t August 8, 2018 Yea he cost them a run. Billy actually saved them run on his running catch. Would love to find guys who could do both. Jim H. August 8, 2018 When are they FINALLY going to see Sal Romano needs to go to the pen. He just can’t start, just can’t. #SarcasmAlert It takes time for young pitchers to find their way. He may yet land in the pen, he may be a bulldog-type starter for the next 6-8 years in the rotation. No idea, but it’ll be fun following along. Good luck to Robert Stephenson today. I’m not rooting for any particular guy in this competition for the rotation, but hoping we see 5-6 emerge over the final months and start to get some consistency in 2019. Fish August 8, 2018 I don’t think one good start necessarily invalidates the Romano to the bullpen argument. I haven’t seen anything recently about his change up quality/usage. To me, two pitches only = bullpen. Now if the stuff plays up he could be a setup guy/closer (which would be my preference & get a good package for Iglesias). I just think the reds have better long term rotation options. redleggingfordayz August 8, 2018 I mean his underlying numbers and advanced metrics definitely paint a picture of a future in the bullpen. His strikeout to walk ratio is pretty bad this year. While he has had some great starts this year (and some really bad ones), I just don’t see him being able to get through “good” lineups 3 times. He has the stuff to be a shutdown closer or setup man. Give people like Stephenson and Sims (who have better secondary pitches) a shot in the rotation instead. And just a PSA on my bias, I was one of the biggest fans of Romano before his call up, just from what I have seen he isn’t a long term solution at this point. Stock August 8, 2018 How long are we supposed to give Sal? 28 starts in 2 years and he has done nothing but proven he would never be in a rotation of a team competing for a post-season birth. The Brewers started the season with one pitcher with an ERA north of 4.5 and Davies hasn’t pitched since May. The Cubs signed Chatwood to a big contract as a FA this offseason. But rest assured when Darvish comes back Chatwood goes to the bullpen. The Dodgers and Braves have SP with an ERA north of 4.50 and the Phillies have no one with an ERA north of 4.51. Even more important the Reds have many people in Louisville with more potential than Romano. There is a reason Romano never made it on the top 100 lists. He isn’t that good. Stephenson, Reed, Sims, Wisler and Mahle are all better than Romano. Castillo, Bailey and DeSclafani are all better than Romano. Romano is the 10th best SP we have yet he is holding down a valuable spot we could use to determine a path for next year. Stephenson, Reed and Sims need to be starting in Cincinnati this year. If not the Reds are sending a clear message to me that 2019 is a rebuilding year. Just my take. Romano is nothing more than a bullpen arm and one good game against a AAA offense does not change my opinion. Wes August 8, 2018 12-17 record w 4.74 era in 38 starts. 209 innings w 160ks w 1.43 whip. Totally cool w reds giving him a chance but it’s someone else’s turn to have a chance to prove themself. If there wasn’t 4/5 guys waiting in the wing I’d be cool w a longer trial but got to make room somewhere. MichaelA August 8, 2018 Really, ready to throw in the towel on a 24 year old pitcher? In his last 7 games (5 starts): 3.94 Era 32 Innings 29 Hits 14 Earned 7 Walks 20 K’s 1.13 WHIP I agree that it hasn’t always been awesome for Big Sal this year but he is looking better of late. The whole point being that he is 24 and in his first full season in the bigs. Patience. wes August 8, 2018 Ill take him over homer or harvey for sure. When it comes to Aug and Sept, especially your second time around like in Sal’s case, it’s less impressive when you succeed at tail end of season. Many teams do not intentionally put their best team out there every day. So I’d rather see any of the following get starts over Sal bc he’s been there before at this point in an irrelevant season- Big Tony Mella Bobsteve Reed Sims MichaelA August 9, 2018 Why is it less impressive for a young pitcher to show signs of development as the season wears on? Isn’t that the hope or is your expectation that every 24 year old will come up and be dominate? I agree that some of the others need a chance as well but to ignore a young pitcher starting to make strides doesn’t make sense. redleggingfordayz August 8, 2018 Btw someone that really seems to be adjusting to their promotion is Michael Beltre, over the last 28 games he has been pretty hot at the plate. .339/.423/.468/.890 kevinz August 8, 2018 I think Beltre gets over looked for his age and power at the moment. I always liked how he controls the zone . If you control the Zone make contact you will be a MLB player just like Ervin. If Beltre did not miss some games in July he may even have better totals at Daytona. MK August 8, 2018 Interesting about the Daytona line-up is Beltre hitting ninth. In 2017 in he started the year hitting ninth and said publicly that he was comfortable hitting there. This year he hit mostly in first four spots and was more successful. Im May I asked a Dragons coach about this and he said they finally convinced Michael that he was a big/fast guy who need to hit in the middle of the order and he gained the confidence to do it. Now he is hitting ninth again. Have to wonder if the Developmental people communicate or are on the same page. I will say off the field Michael is one of the nicest guys you would want to meet. Always wears a big smile. kevinz August 8, 2018 thanks MK for more insight on Beltre. Beltre having that type of Personality along with Controlling Zone makes me believe will reach his Ceiling. Once he is Confident and knows what type a Player he is. I believe his game reaches another level. Kap August 8, 2018 5 walks in 4 innings today. Stephenson is still the same pitcher as he’s always been redleggingfordayz August 8, 2018 While the DeGrom walk killed me, I am pretty sure we have to give him more of a chance than just 1 start :P. Matthew O'Neal August 8, 2018 Not that 3 walks in 4 innings is good either, but 2 of those were IBB to Mesoraco to get to deGrom. Which we know how that turned out, but still, 2 of the walks were Riggleman’s decision. Alex Reds August 8, 2018 Question: if the Reds cut Bailey this year or this offseason do they save his option cost of $5M in his contract? If true, shouldn’t the Reds strongly consider this? Big Ed August 8, 2018 Negatory. Gotta pay that, too. redlegs4ever August 8, 2018 If anything releasing Bailey would cause that 5 Mil to be paid up front now instead of after next season. I’m sure they could work out some deferred “Bonilla” deal but Bailey is getting every dime he’s owed sooner or later. Alex Reds August 8, 2018 Stephenson only gave up 3 hits in 4 innings and no home runs, hopefully the Reds give him some starts to get comfortable. Ofcorse his first start back, He was likely over throwing. Let him start and prove himself. I’d even take Harvey out of the rotation before Stephenson. Romano and Castillo are on a roll and should stay. Either Bailey or Harvey need bumped or Harvey needs traded through waivers or moved to bullpen. Realistically, Cody Reed should also be getting a shot as he’s performed well too. kevinz August 8, 2018 Agreed Castillo and Big Sal been our best SP the last close to 2 months now. Norwood Nate August 8, 2018 Not the start from Stephenson I had hoped for. Walking DeGrom was a crushing blow to him having a chance to have a good game. The walks will get overblown I’m sure, even though two were IBB. I’d like to see him stick around in the rotation. One start is not enough of a sample size to determine anything long term. Bob Anderson August 8, 2018 The ump caused that walk. The ump favored DeGrom and it showed. Matter of fact, I thought Stephenson only had 1 real “bad” walk. The others were by the Umps choice. That is why you can’t gleam much from 1 start, especially one where the ump was showing pure bias. redlegs4ever August 8, 2018 I’m glad someone else saw this, I didn’t see every pitch because I was busy at work but I saw Stephenson’s 1st walk which had some very close pitches and the walk to Degrom in which 2 of those pitches were definitely strikes. Plus what I seen of Degrom pitching he had the Maddux zone today. wes August 8, 2018 Herrera has been up for over a month now and has 23 at bats. Was that really the plan when they called him up? He was having a great season and it’s like managemnet pulled it to a halt so he could sit on a big league bench. Don’t get it. Norwood Nate August 8, 2018 Nothing they do or say makes me think they have any real semblance of a plan. More often it feels like they fly by the seat of their pants. They may have a plan behind the scenes and maybe it’s excellent. On the outside looking in, I have yet to see much, if any, evidence of that. RedsinWashst August 8, 2018 I am starting to get tired of old Rigglemans old school baseball. In some ways he put the pressure on Bob/Steve by walking the bases loaded. I wonder who called 4 straight curveballs to the pitcher himself or the catcher. And then trying to sacrifice Hamilton over to 3rd base is wasted outs, let Hamilton try to steal 3rd base. He and the team got off to a good start but they don’t seem to be very organized right now. MK August 8, 2018 They need to find a defensive position for Scooter where he doesn’t continue to hurt them on throws. kevinz August 8, 2018 Why do that it is helping the reds cause to get a Top 5 Pick. instead of being stuck in the middle it better to bottom out. 2020 is the year the cubs may tail off plus Then the reds will be stacked full of Young Talent with crazy Depth. Doug Gray August 9, 2018 It’s called the disabled list so his shoulder heals. redlegs4ever August 9, 2018 But that would possibly give Dilson Herrera playing time and we can’t have that… RedsinWashst August 9, 2018 It probably needs surgery and they are putting it off until the off season.