Reds, and NL Central insights from The Prospect Handbook Doug Gray February 9, 2019 28 Comments On Friday afternoon the mailman dropped off several awesome things for me that I’ve been waiting a while for. One of those things was baseball related. I twas the Baseball America Prospect Handbook. If you are unfamiliar, it’s the Top 30 prospects, with scouting reports and information for each organization. If you are interested in it, you can buy it here. It’s much cheaper on Amazon, but doesn’t ship for several more weeks. It’s a great resource for me throughout the season when traveling around to watch the Reds play on the farm – mostly as a general guide for who to keep an eye on from the other team. A few years ago the Baseball America crew added something to the write ups that was rather valuable. They would add a grade, along with the risk factor. The grades are the OFP (overall future potential) that you will see on scouting reports that are turned into teams. Here’s the breakdown of the chart at the start of the book that tells you what each grade means: The Reds trades with the Los Angeles Dodgers and New York Yankees after the deadline to send the book to the printer. That means that they only have 27 players in their section that are still with the organization after losing Shed Long, Jeter Downs, and Josiah Gray. I didn’t look up if any of the other teams within the division made trades and lost any of their top 30 prospects. Perhaps they did and I just didn’t pay attention and take notice. Here’s how each organization broke down via the grades. The Cincinnati Reds jump out here in that 60+ grade range. It’s that area that separates them from the rest of the division. They have five players that grade out as 60 or higher. The entire rest of the division combines for five such players. Now, there is something worth noting about the grade chart. Simply having a higher grade does not necessarily mean a player is the higher ranked prospect. This is where the risk factor comes in with each grade. A player with a 50 grade that is in Triple-A has far less risk than a player with a 50 grade who is playing in complex level baseball. The guy in Triple-A will be ranked significantly higher. In some cases grade 40 players ranked higher than grade 50 players because of this. This was just a fun little exercise to look at with the book in hand. There was only one big surprise within the Top 30 to me. Miguel Hernandez wasn’t in there. And he didn’t even make the depth chart at shortstop, either. I found that to be rather interesting. I’m the “high” guy when it comes to Hernandez. But I’m not alone in believing he’s got a chance to be a quality future shortstop, either. Fangraphs has him at #23 on their list. It was just a surprise that he wasn’t on the depth chart, given a few others who were. Share this:FacebookTwitterRedditPocket 28 Responses DanD February 9, 2019 Who was the Cardinals player that graded out as a 70? Reply Fish February 9, 2019 I’d assume Alex Reyes. Reply terry m February 9, 2019 Correct Steve BP February 10, 2019 Obviously it’s just one opinion, but I’d be stunned to see Reyes end up as a better player than Senzel Reply Wes February 9, 2019 Shot out to homer for wanting to take another shot at it ! I figured he’d take his millions and millions and call it a career. Reply Wes February 9, 2019 And according to fan graphs all those guys combined are worth 70 zillions. According to reality out of the top10 60 grade plus players- maybe 1/2 will be occasional all stars. Senzel Trammell Greene India Santillan Hiura Reyes Gorman Keller Hayes Here’s my top 5 in order for most all stars in future- Hiura Trammell Senzel Reyes Greene Gorman is my dark horse Another way to notice how fantastic of off season reds have had ! In comparison- pirates gave up 2 top 50 prospects for Chris archer reds gave up 0 top hundred for Roark wood Puig Gray 2019 gonna be that year (insert strong arm emoji) Reply Doug Gray February 9, 2019 I think you may have carried a few extra zeroes on your math in that 70 zillion calculation. Reply MK February 9, 2019 Surprised Siri, Friedl and Garcia are trending down. Reply Stock February 9, 2019 Friedl surprises me but Siri and Garcia had disappointing seasons Reply RedsKoolAidDrinker February 9, 2019 So I was one who was in the crowd that would have given a tad more for Realmuto. But after the calm of the storm, I must admit that Tucker Barnhart I think makes other players better with his leadership. I know that’s not analytics, but I really would have missed him. Question: is there any reason to believe (other than injury) that Realmuto could have/ would have trended downward this year? Reply Cguy February 9, 2019 Have you read the latest from MLB Trade Rumors (JT Realmuto Talks: Behind the Scenes)? Reds were dismissed in a single sentence, as have never been close. Perhaps MLBTR should read their own press releases- or discount them. Reply Rob February 9, 2019 Keith Law has Brent Spillane rated as our eighth best prospect. He has been the most bullish, by far, I’ve seen on him. Great college numbers. Great contact issues. Reply Doug Gray February 9, 2019 I literally have no words. Reply Doug Gray February 9, 2019 I lied. There is literally ZERO way you can rank Bren Spillane ahead of Jose Siri. None. And it’s absolutely ridiculous that it happened. Reply Rob February 9, 2019 Good article to draft a comparison??? Bred February 9, 2019 How often do 50 to 60 rated players play themselves up to be 70 to 80 players? Reply Doug Gray February 9, 2019 Once a decade or less? Reply Nep O'Tism February 10, 2019 Jose Altuve was the once of the decade? Undersized guy who I don’t believe was ever on a Top 100 list, signed for just $15k. Now has 1 MVP, 6 AS, 5 SS, 1 GG, and 3 batting titles. Doug Gray February 10, 2019 I don’t think Jose Altuve is a 70/80 player to be honest with you. He’s a 60/65 guy who has had 2 seasons where he’s been better than that. Doug Gray February 10, 2019 Let me expand a little on this, though: Altuve would absolutely have been a Top 100 guy had his career played out slightly differently. His breakout was in 2011 when he hit .389/.426/.591 in the minors as a 21-year-old. But he also reached the Majors that year and lost his prospect list eligibility before the list would come out for that season. Still, don’t think anyone was projecting him to be the guy he was in 2016 or 2017, either. He’s certainly outperformed the expectations. Doug Gray February 9, 2019 To expand on this, there are about 3-4 80 grade players in all of Major League Baseball at a given point in time. Maybe. There are a handful more of 70’s. It’s rare that someone goes from “solid average” projection to “Future Hall of Famer”. Usually you can notice those kinds of things, those kinds of tools very early. Reply jman February 9, 2019 votto Wes February 10, 2019 I’d say trout is only 80 grade player in all of baseball. Betts 70/75. Scherzer 70. Bumgarner was an 80 grade pitcher a few years ago when he was just so dominant in the post season. At his peak votto might of got to 75 but 70 is a much safer grade and more like 65 today. Love/hate to see Bumgarner a red this season. Hate to see one of their big 3 prospects be traded with no return for a 1/2 season but there’s no better player in our generation you want on the field in a 1 game playoff than Bumgarner. RMR February 9, 2019 Cards gave up their #3 guy Carson Kelly and another guy who was fringe top 30 in Andy Young in the Goldschmidt deal. But yeah, great to see the Reds with as many plus prospects (60+) as the rest of the division combined. Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published.CommentName* Email* Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.